I thought Poole's traffic lights, not trains :P
They also do the control software for trains, is all their software engineering for most of Europe down there, since rail is part of "Siemens Mobility".
Merseyrail are just making sure they get onto the DfT's rolling stock plan, hopefully for CP5 (2014-19).
I doubt if we'll see an order for some years.
Merseyrail/travel can't just order trains without DfT/Treasury funding.
It might be different if infrastructure investment dictated new trains (eg AC extension/dual voltage working), or if corrosion of the current fleet was excessive.
There is no plan to replace the similar class 313/4/5 trains (except the 315s partially by Crossrail).
Didn't know that... I just assumed you were trying to get in the good books of a certain Lancashire-based signals engineer.
Err yes they do since Merseyrail is devolved to local control like Scotland and (barring infrastructure at the moment) Wales.
Their looking for a programme leader to build the procurement team and lead it to completion.
Yes, I can read, thanks. But I put it into plain English to show how daft it is.
Merseyrail are just making sure they get onto the DfT's rolling stock plan, hopefully for CP5 (2014-19).
I doubt if we'll see an order for some years.
Merseyrail/travel can't just order trains without DfT/Treasury funding.
It might be different if infrastructure investment dictated new trains (eg AC extension/dual voltage working), or if corrosion of the current fleet was excessive.
There is no plan to replace the similar class 313/4/5 trains (except the 315s partially by Crossrail).
brand new. Oh and why would the new Aventra not be built in the UK?
Will the units be DC only or Dual Voltage so they can work away from MerseyRail e.g. Manchester Airport, Preston etc?
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Will the units be DC only or Dual Voltage so they can work away from MerseyRail e.g. Manchester Airport, Preston etc?
Because the chances are it's not just going to be for the UK market so the production line will need to shift metal away at UIC GC gauge as well as W6, C1 etc.
Hence, no way to shift it all by rail from Derby, so the chances are it won't be built here.
I can see one way of saving Derby as part of HS1, by providing a UIC-GC link to the EU network, but without that, I can't see Derby surviving beyond the S Stock Deliveries and any further Class 172 orders.
Will the units be DC only or Dual Voltage so they can work away from MerseyRail e.g. Manchester Airport, Preston etc?
As much as I'd hate to see the 507s and 508s replaced, being among my favourite design of EMUs, I think that a variant of the Desiro City would be a good idea, especially as Siemens stock tends to have very good acceleration which is needed for routes like MerseyRail with lots of stops close together.
On the subject of trailers being incorporated into the Class 455s, the 455/7s have a 508 TSO as their intermediate trailers, so it could definitely be done compatibility-wise I think, although it depends if the 455 traction motors are up to shifting 5 cars instead of 4.
Is anyone else thinking along the lines of something like an ElectroDiesel might be in order for some units to extend services from Kirby to the bay in Wigan Wallgate, and Borscough Curves etc.
Err take it you don't have much experience of Siemens stock running on dc, acceleration is pretty awful, 377s will comfortably show a 450 a clean pair of heals over the Portsmouth to Havant section.
The schedule of the Portsmouth Fast trains is now nearly 15 mins longer with 450s/444s than it was with slam door stock (admittedly with an extra stop at woking).
Why not just extend the 3rd rail, and yes it is permitted to extend existing systems before all the "oh it isnt allowed" lot get involved.
Yes I have noticed this with the class 377's departing Southampton however it does seem to be different when working AC
When running on 25kV this current limit issue disappears so if the Siemens trains have a bit more poke they will then keep up with the Class 377s. They will also cost a bit more to run of course.