EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

[Domh245]

Ouch.

 

[Esker-pades]

May's Deal:

Yes: 202
No: 432
Majority: -230

 

[nidave]

51% of the electorate who expressed an opinion (s majority)

So no one else matters then. How charming.

 

[Esker-pades]

May is practically daring Corbyn to table a motion of no confidence.

 

[nidave]

Biggest defeat of a PM in history

 

[Senex]

That's beyond the 220 worst that was being predicted. Now what?

 

[VioletEclipse]

Since the 1920s... ooh that's painful for Theresa May.

 

[dgl]

Postponing the vote didn't work for her in the end did it?
But, strong and stable guys, strong and stable (said the jelly).

 

[Esker-pades]

There's the motion of no confidence.

 

[Basher]

PM Theresa May loses MPs’ vote on Brexit deal by 432 votes to 202 - the biggest government defeat in history.
No can we get on with a no deal please and have EFTA trade.

 

[Basher]

May is practically daring Corbyn to table a motion of no confidence.

He would not win, he is plonker.

 

[Esker-pades]

He would not win, he is plonker.

Rational and reasonable debate there .

 

[EM2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/468...3e3897bbde15067cf7fff6&pinned_post_type=share

Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn says that he has tabled a motion of no confidence in the government.

Leader of the Opposition Jeremy Corbyn says that the result of tonight's vote is the largest defeat for a government since the 1920s.

After two years of negotiations, this verdict is "absolutely decisive". He says the PM is only trying to reach out now "after it has been so roundly rejected by Parliament".

"No deal must be taken off the table, a permanent customs union must be secured, and people's rights and protections must be guaranteed," he says, adding that the PM has "closed the door on dialogue".

"In the last two years, she's had only one priority, the Conservative Party," he states.

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[VioletEclipse]

I doubt Theresa May will win the vote of no confidence...

 

[nidave]

MAY: Here we go...
SPEAKER: The ayes to the right 202. the nos to the left 432
LIDINGTON: Has ANY government ever endured a defeat on the floor of the Commons of more than 100?
HAMMOND: Nope
GRAYLING: Yes! We set a record!
HAMMOND: Not a good one Chris
GRAYLING: Oh.
STARMER: This is the bit where we call for the confidence vote we can't win isn't?
MCDONNELL: Yup
STARMER: Remind me what that achieves?
MCDONNELL: Precisely fu%k all.
STARMER: Excellent.

https://twitter.com/garius/status/1085155614483992576?s=19

This sums it all up.

 

[DarloRich]

I doubt Theresa May will win the vote of no confidence...

Do you really think Tory MP's will cut thier own throat and side with Corbyn.

Do you think the DUP will vote to turn off the money taps that thier confidence and supply deal delivers them?

 

[DarloRich]

PM Theresa May loses MPs’ vote on Brexit deal by 432 votes to 202 - the biggest government defeat in history.
No can we get on with a no deal please and have EFTA trade.

That seems to be about the only thing there is a majority view on and that is against it!

 

[nidave]

PM Theresa May loses MPs’ vote on Brexit deal by 432 votes to 202 - the biggest government defeat in history.
No can we get on with a no deal please and have EFTA trade.

No deal would be a disaster. Tell us how it would be better in your opinion considering everyone has said it would pretty much destroy the UK. (excluding jrm who is no doubt got a lot of money riding on the point tanking tomorrow and bettingagain st the country - he still has the lies printed and retracted by the sun up on his Twitter account)

 

[VauxhallandI]

No deal would be a disaster. Tell us how it would be better in your opinion considering everyone has said it would pretty much destroy the UK. (excluding jrm who is no doubt got a lot of money riding on the point tanking tomorrow and bettingagain st the country - he still has the lies printed and retracted by the sun up on his Twitter account)

I'm afraid you're asking the wrong person that question. Not a clue

 

[EM2]

I doubt Theresa May will win the vote of no confidence...

But I also doubt that Corbyn will win any General Election, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Basher]

Never seen any facts to back up a disaster, it's all project fear. I did post some time ago the food goods that would be cheaper. Also as part of the south west Durham area we may get more assistance as we are not designated a ex coal area under the EU grants system. place like Seaham got huge grants from the EU.

 

[krus_aragon]

And now that that triviality is over and done with, the Commons can get on with the adjournment debate on train services at Chester-le-Street railway station. You're all watching, aren't you?

 

[Basher]

But I also doubt that Corbyn will win any General Election, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree Labour is a finished party unless it changes leader and wows back its traditional voter.

 

[EM2]

Never seen any facts to back up a disaster, it's all project fear.

If trading solely under WTO rules is such a great idea, why does no country do it?

 

[VioletEclipse]

But I also doubt that Corbyn will win any General Election, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Agreed, Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May are both becoming increasingly unpopular, I still believe that the UK will eventually find a solution to the mess the government have made of Brexit, but we shall see.

 

[EM2]

I still believe that the UK will eventually find a solution to the mess the government have made of Brexit, but we shall see.

Personally, ever since the referendum result was announced, I've believed the best answer to be a Norway deal, but it's very unpopular with many Leave voters.

 

[Walshy23]

even though the PM has made this look a mess she's not the only one to blame, the EU have simply bullied her into taking this deal as a ’take it or leave it’ because they know if they made it easy for us to leave other could (and would) follow. This whole thing has shown the EU for what they really are. Bully's who want everything their own way.

 

[ainsworth74]

You're all watching, aren't you?

I've been waiting for this all evening! Can't believe it's taken so long to get through the irrelevant guff earlier.

 

[VioletEclipse]

I am not, and have never been pro-Brexit but I didn't think it would become what it is now, which is a joke for the rest of the world to tease the UK by.

 

[dosxuk]

even though the PM has made this look a mess she's not the only one to blame, the EU have simply bullied her into taking this deal as a ’take it or leave it’ because they know if they made it easy for us to leave other could (and would) follow. This whole thing has shown the EU for what they really are. Bully's who want everything their own way.

The EU haven't bullied anyone. They set out on day #1 what their red lines are, and invited us to put forward our plans, pointing out the options like Norway where the EU currently deals closely with third-party countries. What they didn't do was roll over going "England, you're so amazing we can't imagine you leaving, what can we possibly do to make this easier for you?".

We then managed to make it worse by wanting a whole load of things that are not only incompatible with the founding elements of the EU, but themselves (e.g. no customs union but no hard border between customs entities). Our red-lines were a complete shambles, and our negotiations were a joke from the beginning. We were the ones who actually wrote "CAKE AND EAT IT" on a briefing note to the new formed DExEU back in 2016.