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Eurotunnel delays - Eurostar unaffected

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AndrewE

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-36178023
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"Rail passengers travelling to France on Eurotunnel's vehicle shuttle service have faced delays of up to five hours."
when they mean MOTORISTS travelling to France...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...16/04/30/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
R pass St Pancras International 9O22 ES Paris Nord 1201 1228¾
VAR pass St Pancras International 9O60 ES Paris Nord 1230½ 1231¾
VAR pass Paris Nord 9O27 ES St Pancras International 1300½ 1303½
VAR pass St Pancras International 9O24 ES Paris Nord 1301 1310¼
WTT pass Bruxelles Midi 9I33 ES St Pancras International 1327½ 1328¾
WTT pass St Pancras International 9I32 ES Bruxelles Midi 1334 1333
VAR pass Paris Nord 9O31 ES St Pancras International 1400½ 1400¾
shows Eurostars virtually all on time or early, the one from Marseilles getting in 14 mins early.

p.s. on searching the Dollands Moor W Jct page I have found 2 or 3 eurostars that did suffer delays, one at max of 73 mins, so maybe it wasn't too far wrong. Better to have said "Eurotunnel's vehicle shuttle service have faced delays..." though.
 
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They're passengers travelling by rail, in what way are they not "rail passengers"? The fact they have cars with them is an irrelevance, a person on a ro-ro ferry with their car would still be a ferry passenger. The BBC even specified the issue was with Eurotunnel, I really don't see the problem with that article.
 

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So AndrewE. what do you call the human beings travelling with the driver. PASSENGERS.
Payment has been made for passage on the train and so everyone is a passenger.
 

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As others have said, the reporting is spot on. At that point, they are rail passengers.
 

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I think that as written it will lead the non-user (the vast majority of the UK population) to imagine that rail services through the tunnel were affected.
I'm afraid that most people would skim-read it,think "Oh, rail has failed again!" and move on when in reality the international rail passenger services were unaffected but the vehicle shuttles had a problem.
 
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You seem to be missing the very obvious point that Le Shuttle passengers are still rail passengers. They are using rail as a mode of transport ergo they are rail passenger.
 

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And the vast majority of the UK popuation might also have read the bit about "Eurotunnel's vehicle shuttle service" at the start of story.

And as noted above, Eurotunnel is a rail service - and if we want to get into your definition of a rail service, lorry drivers using the shuttles have to get out of their vehicles and ride in a passenger coach...
 

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The headline I picked up said 'Eurotunnel and Eurostar passengers could be held up for 5 hours'. In fact, there were a couple of ES delays from the Paris / Brussels side for up to an hour, late on (see RTT), but generally the ES service ran OK yesterday.

I agree with the OP that the headline writers could not differentiate between ES and ET if you paid them - and they are not paid to do so! I blame the choice of similar names by the original firms.
 
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