Yes - but I doubt ( I don't know) they pay as much as the full screen ads. That gap needs to be filled because that is money that cant be spent on the railway.
Can you explain the ‘cancer balcony’ please?
Can you clarify where the stairs might be moved to, please?
Right. I was wondering about the carcinogenic qualities of the mezzanine.
Hmmm.... I think suggesting Finsbury Park can be used as a temporary terminus is stretching things.... do you not remember Christmas 2014 when it was used as a temporary terminus!
I am simply saying that the widely applauded action has a consequence that needs to be addressed. I suspect most posters haven't given it a thought. Simply saying the government will make up the difference is not a given.
Old Oak Common will perform that function once HS2 is open.
I'm guessing that like the rest of us, you don't know what the consequence is, and therefore to what extent it needs to be "addressed", because we don't know what the amount of revenue was.
Whilst I don't know the figures involved I am sure they will be decent ones! That funding gap has to be filled or projects somewhere will suffer. The contracts associated with those boards (with JCDecaux ?) will also have to be renegotiated or terminated at cost. That is more money out of the railway at a time of financial constraint.
Hence why I said "some" and not all !! (Even I recognise that you can't dump everything onto the Bakerloo, as you point out it wouldn't cope, hence my reference to what happened at Finsbury Park in 2014).
Often the other way around. The general public aren't daft, they attempt to ignore advertising if they can get away with it. When it's placed right in front of or immediately in the sightline if information they need to see, however...
Finsbury Park was a nightmare mainly because of the overrun rather than because the station was too small. Although of course it absolutely is way too small (even in normal weekday peak operation sometimes...).
I find it weird that people simultaneously create these kinds of FoI requests and rant about NR managers acting like NR managers rather than human beings. The decision was made a year or so ago under a very different government - if somebody had gone on record then turning down the probably-significant revenue they'd have been castigated by the DfT for waste
It was an operational decision at a publicly funded railway station. The Government will have been nowhere near the detail of the revenue decision - that will have been down to an NR Manager of dubious decision making ability. As a publicly funded organisation it is of course right that dubious decision making can be identified and called out, and so FoI is an important tool to ensure transparency.
To be absolutely crystal clear, I welcome the board being turned off, and I'm not opposed to FoI requests. The idea that NR managers have real agency in these situations though is delusional. FoI requests are used by both sides in any argument, and the last government were painfully penny-wise and pound-stupid, and doing idiotic stuff like this ad board was essentially required from public servants.
I would genuinely be interested to know what the chain of decision making was to approve the ‘big board’ - and which levels of NR managers were involved, whether all were Euston station managers or whether it went up to some wider approvals process etc.
At a high level it is worth noting that 'Other Income' is a significant source of revenue. There was even a special section of the Periodic Review 2023, preparing for Control Period 7 (CP7). Although details can be a bit vague in distinguishing between things like roadside advertising and other property/rental income at major stations from retail outlets, I think that I'm right in saying that advertising revenue associated with major stations is expected to increase by 50%, to £209,000,000 in CP7, so not exactly loose change. I doubt that any other source of income for Network Rail was expected to increase so much. Details from PR23 final determination: supporting document – other income .
Only if the empty sets carry on to reverse somewhere else, there is no facility to turn back at Harrow now and - I don’t think - in 2019. But they could reverse in the slow line platforms at Wembley Central.
