Fare evasion. One word against another

[Haywain]

Simplydb, I'm sorry that your son is in this position. The simple B.R. system of paying the difference is long gone and now everyone is a potential criminal.

The simple BR difference of paying the difference did not exist any more than it does now. BR were quite happy to take people to court.

 

[snail]

He had the card with him but it was out of date. As a first offence maybe we can assume the OP's son made a mistake and treat him accordingly.

From the OP...

he had his military ID which has Been sufficient in the past

Ignorance is no excuse.

 

[StateOfPlay]

From the OP...
Ignorance is no excuse.

When he was asked for his ticket by the warden he asked for he railcard to which my son went and fetched it from his bag and gave it to him. After doing so the warden told my son that it was out of date my son looked and apologised that he didn't realise as he rarely catches a train and stated he had his military ID which has Been sufficient in the past.

As you can see if you read the post he had his pass, it was out of date, he also had his military pass. Why do you call him ignorant?

 

[jon0844]

As you can see if you read the post he had his pass, it was out of date, he also had his military pass. Why do you call him ignorant?

What relevance is a military pass? That's not a railcard is it? You need to buy one of those, and renew as necessary.

I thought we'd done all the comparisons of why a 90 year old can't expect to pay less for a ticket without a senior railcard, simply because age means a railcard is available.

Anyone in the south east can buy a Network Railcard. Not everyone does, but they can't go buying discounted tickets then claim that they shouldn't be penalised...

 

[Simplydb]

Thanks Dave I understand now and everyone else for your support. I'll be speaking to legal advice.

 

[ainsworth74]

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