Was that we should or shouldn't take pat in it?I would recommend that anyone who has not already does not takes part in the DfT's fares consultation: https://consultation.dft.gov.uk/dft/2012-09/consult_view
Justine Greening said:The long-standing concerns about complexity in the system must also be
addressed. We believe strongly that buying a rail ticket should be a
straightforward transaction, not an obstacle course
But how will they do that? Get rid of all ticket types except Anytime?I'm glad that they are actually acknowledging that something needs to be done.
So you think that it should just be left in the mess that it is, with only the few experts having a clue what's going on?But how will they do that? Get rid of all ticket types except Anytime?
I fear that any further "simplification" of the ticketing system will only mean that passengers end up paying more.
If this consultation were to lead to higher ticket prices all round in the name of further 'simplification' then yes I think it should be left as it is! I'm all in favour of simplifying the fares system but only if it doesn't disadvantage passengers in other ways, however, I'm not convinced that the DfT can deliver such change.So you think that it should just be left in the mess that it is, with only the few experts having a clue what's going on?
I agree. Based on what has happened previously, I have little doubt that any attempt to amend the current system, however well intentioned, will lead to some, maybe most, passengers paying more than they do now.If this consultation were to lead to higher ticket prices all round in the name of further 'simplification' then yes I think it should be left as it is! I'm all in favour of simplifying the fares system but only if it doesn't disadvantage passengers in other ways, however, I'm not convinced that the DfT can deliver such change.
Or maybe it suggests that younger people are more confident with technology but less confident with interpersonal interactions with a ticket office?I find it very interesting that the railcard ticketing figures are pretty much consistent except for the proportion of 16 - 25 ticketing. I hope this doesn't indicate that there is a very high level of fraudulent 16 - 25 ticketing going on with the machines? ( i.e. people using machines to get a discount to which they are not entitled and relying on the low number of ticket checks to get away with it ).
The DfT specifies train company franchises and micromanages all sorts of aspects of them. Why do you then conclude that TOCs will continue to 'get away' with things. Most of the confusion arises from a half cocked attempt to allow commercial freedom hemmed in by bureaucratic and outdated rules, so regulated fares are overlaid with commercially-sponsored fares. It is in your interest to engage in and respond to such consultations on the rare occasions you get the chance!I started to complete it but got bored halfway through and gave up...
The consultation is pointless. Whatever the outcome, the train operating companies will continue to make fares more complex because it is their interests to confuse the occasional passenger.
I wouldn't have thought so, no. The money is taken online whereas a true TVM sale includes taking the money at that point. With TOD you are simply utilising the TVM as a glorified printer.Referring to the Railcard Holder table: I wonder whether I'm interpreting it correctly - when it says "Issued by Internet" does this mean [email protected] / Posted tickets only? After all tickets purchased online for collection are technically issued by the TVM and would fall into that category, no?
CHANGING THE PERMITTED ROUTES
Agreement to make a change
The Routeing Guide may, with the consent of the Authority, be altered from time to time by
a resolution of the Ticketing and Settlement Scheme Council, passed by a 75 per cent.
majority. Before giving his consent, the Authority will consult with any relevant RPC(s).
Requirement to notify the RSP
If such a resolution is passed the Operators must ensure that its terms are
notified to the RSP as soon as reasonably practicable after the consent of the
Authority has been obtained, in the format and in accordance with the procedure
specified by the RSP from time to time.
The alteration will take effect immediately after the first Fares Setting
Round to start after the RSP receives this notification has been completed.
Publication by the RSP
Following the receipt of the notification referred to in sub-Clause (2) above, the RSP will
amend the Routeing Guide accordingly (or the part of it which is subject to the amendment)
and distribute it in accordance with Clause 4-59 above.
How on earth could any proposer ever achieve a 75% maj.?TSA said:. . . a resolution of the Ticketing and Settlement Scheme Council, passed by a 75 per cent.