Fastest Running London Underground Deep Line?

[j.crocker355]

After spending a day screeching around the Jubilee and Central lines pokehunting (with the kids) it got me wondering

What is the fastest stretch of Deep Line tube? And what is the top speed?

Jc

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[Mag_seven]

After spending a day screeching around the Jubilee and Central lines pokehunting (with the kids) it got me wondering

What is the fastest stretch of Deep Line tube? And what is the top speed?

Jc

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The Victoria line always seems pretty fast to me.

 

[whoami]

Jubilee and Victoria are the fastest!

 

[47271]

It's funny because I always get the impression that the Central Line runs faster than any of the others in the deep tunnels, but maybe it's just that its stock makes it feel like that.

The Victoria and Jubilee certainly feel the smoothest to me if not the fastest.

Nothing smooth, or fast, feeling about the Bakerloo or Piccadilly.

 

[Lrd]

I believe it's the Jubilee that's fastest.

The Central line gets up to 65kph. It may feel faster due to the aggressive driving by the ATO.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Nothing smooth, or fast, feeling about the Bakerloo or Piccadilly.

I think the Piccadilly at least has a lot of things that the route as to go around, can't remember of one of the is the Bank of England vaults (it might be the Northern Line that has to go around that)

 

[jopsuk]

It's the Central that has to go around the Bank of England Vaults- the Piccadilly goes nowhere near the bank (it heads north out of the West End) and the Northern goes below the Central at Bank.

The Victoria, at least between Green Park and Manor House, is in part an express relief line for the Picadilly. Stations are more widely spaced, so longer running at top speed. Jubilee, in the Extension part, also has big space between stations.

The other deep tubes (the Central is a case in point) have much more frequent stations

 

[notadriver]

Not on topic but I believe Javelins do over 100 mph between Stratford Intl and St Pancras Intl !


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[SpacePhoenix]

Would the Waterloo & City be a contender at all?

 

[47271]

Would the Waterloo & City be a contender at all?

It's a contender for being the line with most twists and turns for sure!

 

[Goldfish62]

Would the Waterloo & City be a contender at all?

No.

 

[transmanche]

The maximum speed on the Victoria line is 80km/h (50mph).

According to this FoI request:

Normally, all trains will travel up to the full line speed of 50 mph subject to the position of the train ahead.

 

[Domh245]

The Victoria line and the Jubilee Line (Extension) both reach 50mph if I remember correctly.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

What's the max line speed for the Pic where it runs non-stop for a section?

 

[notadriver]

45 mph.


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[Abpj17]

Victoria is very fast - http://londonist.com/2014/05/unexpected-ways-that-the-victoria-line-can-save-you-minutes

Northern line is one that seems to creak a fair bit all the way from King X to London Bridge. It screeches a lot around ?Angel. In the city, the central line and northern line both broadly follow the roads and are quite squished - to the extent that the Northern line swaps sides/runs on top of each other through the city. http://districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/6157/bank-moorgate provides a lot of detailed history

 

[tsr]

I would recommend this map for a very detailed look at the positioning of Tube routes and stations: http://carto.metro.free.fr/cartes/metro-london/

Once you know the approximate linespeeds, line history and a little bit about the rolling stock, combine it with the map and suddenly everything makes a bit more sense. Obviously understanding the whole Underground network is a life's work and you'll never know everything about the system, but I've always found threads like these and resources like that map to work well in tandem.

 

[bramling]

After spending a day screeching around the Jubilee and Central lines pokehunting (with the kids) it got me wondering

What is the fastest stretch of Deep Line tube? And what is the top speed?

Jc

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The answer is that it's the Jubilee at present, which reaches 60mph in the tunnels.

Northern and Vic reach 50, albeit rarely on the Northern.

Central is no more than 65kph.

Bakerloo no more than 35 I think.

Picc is technically 45mph, although can exceed this if drover is speeding, for example they can touch 60mph Heathrow T123 to T5.

 

[Mikey C]

The answer is that it's the Jubilee at present, which reaches 60mph in the tunnels.

Northern and Vic reach 50, albeit rarely on the Northern.

Central is no more than 65kph.

Bakerloo no more than 35 I think.

Picc is technically 45mph, although can exceed this if drover is speeding, for example they can touch 60mph Heathrow T123 to T5.

The Piccadilly Line to me always feels fast when going around the Heathrow loops, after all these are the newest Underground sections other than the Jubilee Line extension.

 

[tranzitjim]

Do you need to be in the deep tube sections, or, can we count deep tube trains in the above ground sections too?

How fast would trains get up near Cockfosters and Epping?

 

[keppoch69]

The Victoria line always seems pretty fast to me.

I would suggest a wonderful website, VERY similar to this excellent one which is for the whole UK & beyond but: http://districtdavesforum.co.uk
The speciality of those wonderful people IS the London Underground as well as other things.
I know there is some cross pollination between both websites, including staff members employed by London Underground. 1 BIG, Railway family. Bless you all x.

 

[Mojo]

Do you need to be in the deep tube sections, or, can we count deep tube trains in the above ground sections too?

How fast would trains get up near Cockfosters and Epping?

As stated above, Line speed on the Piccadilly line is 45mph. This includes whether in tunnel or open sections. In certain places lower speed limits are posted.

 

[Busaholic]

How fast would trains get up near Cockfosters and Epping?

Not too fast, one hopes. Ongar is not meant to be a backstop to Epping!

 

[tranzitjim]

Not too fast, one hopes. Ongar is not meant to be a backstop to Epping!

I am a tad rusty. I mean up that end of the Central line wherever it ends.

 

[Lrd]

The Central line in the open sections has a line speed of 85kph but this used to be 100kph before the Chancery Lane derailment and I believe there is a hope to get it back up to that speed.

 

[Comstock]

Not on topic but I believe Javelins do over 100 mph between Stratford Intl and St Pancras Intl !

Can you use Oyster on those?

 

[notadriver]

Can you use Oyster on those?

Yes but you need money on your oyster. It's not part of the travel card zones.


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[Aws87024]

Can you use Oyster on those?

Its was £3.80 single for me the other week.

 

[rebmcr]

Jubilee can reach 60mph IIRC.