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  1. richw

    richw Established Member

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    12 plate Enviros have arrived at Falmouth for the Redruth and Truro routes. Seen today on driver training.
     
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    The 89/90 is interesting, I wonder what their fares will be?

    WGL charge £1.80 AD SGL (£2.60 RTN) from Newquay to St Columb Minor, if First price match then some people may wait for them instead. However, going on current experience with the 88 through Treloggan most passengers will probably stick with WGL because of the higher service frequency (2bph as opposed to First's 1). Henver Road sees up to 5bph, and that sort of flexibility is a big plus to passengers.

    However, on the question of Newquay to Truro, First may well have people switching over to them if their fares are reasonable.
     
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    I expect first to price in line with their existing route.

    Currently £5 single and £7.50 return Newquay to Truro.
     
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    Yeah, looks like my source wasn't right on this occasion lol!
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    I thought Newquay to Truro was £4.00/£6.00?
     
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    I thought it went up in January. All other routes of similar and even less distance are £5.00/£7.50
     
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    Why would a service run *except* peak periods? Seems strange that one of these (the 89) runs only during off-peak periods. Is there something else which takes its place in the peak?
     
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    Something to utilise a school bus?
     
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    Got it in one, once all the Enviros are here, a majority of the Olympians will be Truro College runs with a couple of journeys whilst they are idle between 9 and 4.
     
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    33662 & 33665 seen at Camborne parked up this morning. No sign of any route branding or livery variations although I could not get a good look at them as they were round the back of the depot.
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    33661 seen heading from Camborne to Truro this lunchtime.
     
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    The Enviros are part of a tender made by university Falmouth. The contract won by first includes a maximum vehicle age hence the swap on ageing tridents for the Enviros. The contract is for 5 years, but the Enviros will exceed the age limit well within that time frame,
     
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    Four E400's at Camborne earlier this morning, 33658, 33661 & 2 others.

    Update:- Now five E400's as 33664 was driven out of one of the engineering bays this afternoon and the other four were still present.
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    Yet another E400 has arrived at Camborne from Plymouth. 33659 was in an engineering bay being worked on today, a week or so before the new timetables come into operation.

    ALX 200 Dart 42469 was in the withdrawn area this morning but taxed and MOT'd so may only be there temporarily due to space constraints on the depot.
     
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    Several E400s have been working the Penryn rugby club P&R for Tall Ships along with pretty much every other decker you can think of including a VR.

    A spotters dream you could say, a contact of mine pictured a variety of bodied Olympians, Tridents, 2 x E400s and a VR on Thursday working the temporary P&R,

    I will find out about 42469. She's far too young for withdrawal in Cornwall unless she has terminal mechanical failure.
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    Checked on this. Due a monthly inspection, but there wasn't room in the yard so it got pushed out the back. Its having the inspection this evening and it should be back out working tomorrow.
     
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    Thanks for the info richw.
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    Another E400 has arrived at Camborne from Plymouth, 33667 seen this afternoon in the company of 33658, 33659 & 33660.
     
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    There is 10 E400s in total, 4 have been used on the additional P&R sites at Falmouth over tall ships.
     
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    Have you seen 33666 in Cornwall? That is the only one that I haven't seen yet.
    Anyone have a full list of transfers to Plymouth to replace the E400's?
     
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    Where's the 10th one come from, is it one of the 08s? Plymouth only had 9x 12 plate E400s didn't they?
     
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    9 had already arrived, 83G/84D says another has arrived, so that makes 10?

    The 08s will be too old due to the 5 year age restriction on the new contract.
     
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    I make it he's sighted 8 and the 9th would be 33666 which is all the E400s from Plymouth (33658-67 with 63 in Manchester), hence my asking where the 10th had come from?
     
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    He said another has arrived this afternoon. As 9 had already arrived this would be an easy assumption to mean 10 are now present. I don't know where it will have come from, purely stating basic mathematics from the information provided by him.
     
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    Enviro 400'S 33658 - 33667 excluding 33663 were delivered to Plymouth from new and after their spell at the Olympics they all returned to Plymouth.

    I make that nine vehicles in total and I have seen them all in Cornwall in recent weeks EXCEPT 33666 (so that makes eight out of nine seen to date).

    I am not sure that any have returned back to Plymouth but I doubt it and am asuming that 33666 will arrive in due course.

    If there is a tenth one it has not come from Plymouth!
     
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