First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

[83G/84D]

Volvo B12M coach 20502 has moved from Plymouth to Camborne whilst 20504 remains at Plymouth.
Long term out of service at Camborne are Olympian 34193, Solo 50292 and Dart 42720.

Anyone seen any of the buses loaned from Ensign recently?

 

[South Westerly]

That one had also crossed my mind as some "local" back office functions (e.g. customer services) are based there.

Perhaps the most logical one will cross your mind at some point!?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Perhaps the most logical one will cross your mind at some point!?

Tbh, not certain what the most logical actually is? Northampton had Chelmsford as theirs!

Most logical in terms of geography, or capacity/capability? Assuming that it's more local than Bristol or Soton.... Don't know. Taunton? Even in WN days, it wasn't in Camborne.

I'm sure when you do your big reveal, it will be all too obvious

 

[South Westerly]

Tbh, not certain what the most logical actually is? Northampton had Chelmsford as theirs!

Most logical in terms of geography, or capacity/capability? Assuming that it's more local than Bristol or Soton.... Don't know. Taunton? Even in WN days, it wasn't in Camborne.

I'm sure when you do your big reveal, it will be all too obvious

All these convoluted theories! Camborne

 

[richw]

Volvo B12M coach 20502 has moved from Plymouth to Camborne whilst 20504 remains at Plymouth.
Long term out of service at Camborne are Olympian 34193, Solo 50292 and Dart 42720.

Anyone seen any of the buses loaned from Ensign recently?

The white dart kn52nfu and solo k50wgh are still about, can't recall any others. Both are normally based in St Austell area, typically on ffowey to mevagissey, par to st Austell and St Austell to Truro via St Dennis.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

All these convoluted theories! Camborne

In WN days, the offices were discrete (i.e. Not attached to a depot/bus stn) in Pydar Street in Truro and didn't know if that reflected a lack of space in Camborne?

That said, the requirement for offices now is less than 20 years ago but you get the point

 

[LAIRA]

42842/843 & 66126/127 are running in Plymouth today so possibly 4 ex Plymouth buses running in Cornwall.

I understand FDC head office is to be at Summercourt

Colin
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Volvo B12M coach 20502 has moved from Plymouth to Camborne whilst 20504 remains at Plymouth.
Long term out of service at Camborne are Olympian 34193, Solo 50292 and Dart 42720.

Anyone seen any of the buses loaned from Ensign recently?

Did 50292 ever enter service in Camborne?

 

[South Westerly]

In WN days, the offices were discrete (i.e. Not attached to a depot/bus stn) in Pydar Street in Truro and didn't know if that reflected a lack of space in Camborne?

That said, the requirement for offices now is less than 20 years ago but you get the point

I'm not sure office space is a requirement for a registered address!
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I understand FDC head office is to be at Summercourt[/QUOTE]

No, Camborne

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I'm not sure office space is a requirement for a registered address!
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I understand FDC head office is to be at Summercourt

No, Camborne

Indeed, a most correct observation. Registered office could be a broom cupboard, accountant or legal practice or even a private residence. There's a range of options as to where to locate it but usual practice is some form of office, co-located with admin functions and often using existing offices within a depot or bus station.

There are/were examples that don't such as Go NE or Arriva NE which sits with corporate facilities.

Btw, I think it was Laira stating it was Summercourt but you've replied to me. Thanks, as ever, for the information.

 

[South Westerly]

Indeed, a most correct observation. Registered office could be a broom cupboard, accountant or legal practice or even a private residence. There's a range of options as to where to locate it but usual practice is some form of office, co-located with admin functions and often using existing offices within a depot or bus station.

There are/were examples that don't such as Go NE or Arriva NE which sits with corporate facilities.

Btw, I think it was Laira stating it was Summercourt but you've replied to me. Thanks, as ever, for the information.

It was but it joined my two answers into one message!

 

[richw]

Did 50292 ever enter service in Camborne?

Don't know about Camborne, but it was working in Penzance at some time this year,

W337DWX by Richard W, on Flickr

W337DWX (2) by Richard W, on Flickr

 

[83G/84D]

The white dart kn52nfu and solo k50wgh are still about, can't recall any others. Both are normally based in St Austell area, typically on ffowey to mevagissey, par to st Austell and St Austell to Truro via St Dennis.

There were 2 former Metroline Trident's on lease from Ensign as well.

 

[richw]

There were 2 former Metroline Trident's on lease from Ensign as well.

1 of them I saw doing the malpas boat shuttle, never saw the other. The ex Lothian darts were knackered and never saw service.

 

[South Westerly]

1 of them I saw doing the malpas boat shuttle, never saw the other. The ex Lothian darts were knackered and never saw service.

1 of the ex Lothian Darts failed on delivery. It has had the engine changed in Taunton and has now been sent on to Cornwall. Apart from that the three of them aren't knackered at all but are tidy well maintained vehicles. The two that did make it to Cornwall were held in reserve. At least one has been painted in Olympia now with the others due in paint imminently. All are entering service with First Kernow.

 

[Accelerator59]

1 of the ex Lothian Darts failed on delivery. It has had the engine changed in Taunton and has now been sent on to Cornwall. Apart from that the three of them aren't knackered at all but are tidy well maintained vehicles. The two that did make it to Cornwall were held in reserve. At least one has been painted in Olympia now with the others due in paint imminently. All are entering service with First Kernow.

With this in mind, I wonder what the fleet numbers will be. My guess is 42803/4/5 if they're not already in use.

 

[LAIRA]

42842/843 & 66126/127 are running in Plymouth today so possibly 4 ex Plymouth buses running in Cornwall.

I am advised that 42725 42841 and 62214 are also now in Plymouth although I have not seen them myself.

I am also advised that 32808/817/851/858 33176 32751 have gone to Bath for RRP.

 

[83G/84D]

Enviro 400 33666 is on the 1515 "18" from Truro to Penzance today, whilst Solo 53803 is in Olympia colours and has been out on "road tests" from Camborne this week.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

1 of the ex Lothian Darts failed on delivery. It has had the engine changed in Taunton and has now been sent on to Cornwall. Apart from that the three of them aren't knackered at all but are tidy well maintained vehicles. The two that did make it to Cornwall were held in reserve. At least one has been painted in Olympia now with the others due in paint imminently. All are entering service with First Kernow.

That was the one that had been parked in the corner of the yard at Taunton? I'd not seen it "in the flesh" until last week so just before it got sorted.

Have to say I was surprised at the use of the term "knackered". Generally, Lothian vehicles are well received.

Looks like speed of repaints is picking up.

 

[South Westerly]

That was the one that had been parked in the corner of the yard at Taunton? I'd not seen it "in the flesh" until last week so just before it got sorted.

Have to say I was surprised at the use of the term "knackered". Generally, Lothian vehicles are well received.

Looks like speed of repaints is picking up.

Up to three at a time including the use of outside contractors. The last of the Scanias and all the B7RLEs are due through paint in a rapid roll out.

 

[richw]

1 of the ex Lothian Darts failed on delivery. It has had the engine changed in Taunton and has now been sent on to Cornwall. Apart from that the three of them aren't knackered at all but are tidy well maintained vehicles. The two that did make it to Cornwall were held in reserve. At least one has been painted in Olympia now with the others due in paint imminently. All are entering service with First Kernow.

Thanks for the update on the Lothian darts, contradicts info I was told by a driver I was talking to about them. I haven't seen them in the flesh myself unfortunately.



There is a large feature in the 31st July passenger transport magazine about Cornwall, 8 pages in total.
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Enviro 400 33666 is on the 1515 "18" from Truro to Penzance today, whilst Solo 53803 is in Olympia colours and has been out on "road tests" from Camborne this week.

The Enviros are escaping Falmouth a fair bit lately. They've been regular visitors to Newquay the last couple of weeks.

A Trident was on the U1 yesterday morning,

 

[83G/84D]

53803 on test today, caught me rather unexpectedly so not the best photo.

 

[Goldfish62]

53803 on test today, caught me rather unexpectedly so not the best photo.

Somewhat unfinished - no pink stripe.

Unless I'm mistaken this is the first repaint in the Kernow fleet from Barbie into Olympia.

 

[richw]

Somewhat unfinished - no pink stripe.

Unless I'm mistaken this is the first repaint in the Kernow fleet from Barbie into Olympia.

Possibly due to it suffering major crash damage a couple of months back, the majority of its front end needed repair and repaint so might as well paint it in Olympia.

 

[Chris Thomas]

11036/7/8 at The Eden Project now carry registrations AN/BN/CN02 EDN respectively. On August 1st 11037/8 were working around the site, whilst 11036 & 11085 were parked at the outstation. No sign of either 11086 or 11087. Does anyone know if 11086 has actually ever been at The Eden Project, please?

 

[South Westerly]

Somewhat unfinished - no pink stripe.

Unless I'm mistaken this is the first repaint in the Kernow fleet from Barbie into Olympia.

Following heavy accident damage.
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42842/843 & 66126/127 are running in Plymouth today so possibly 4 ex Plymouth buses running in Cornwall.

I am advised that 42725 42841 and 62214 are also now in Plymouth although I have not seen them myself.

I am also advised that 32808/817/851/858 33176 32751 have gone to Bath for RRP.

No they released Devon vehicles for August rail replacement in Bath while Truro College is out.

 

[83G/84D]

Somewhat unfinished - no pink stripe.

Unless I'm mistaken this is the first repaint in the Kernow fleet from Barbie into Olympia.

If you look very closely the legals are on a sticker on the nearside front window. I suppose this is a temporary affair until the new legals are applied next month.

 

[Goldfish62]

If you look very closely the legals are on a sticker on the nearside front window. I suppose this is a temporary affair until the new legals are applied next month.

What's happening next month?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

What's happening next month?

Alluding to the fact that legals will need to be changed from Chelson Meadow to Union Street in Camborne, as Mr South Westerly has advised.

 

[South Westerly]

Alluding to the fact that legals will need to be changed from Chelson Meadow to Union Street in Camborne, as Mr South Westerly has advised.

Albeit that I didn't mention next month. May just be waiting for the vinyl man to turn up from Taunton to fit the proper full set. B

 

[richw]

Albeit that I didn't mention next month. May just be waiting for the vinyl man to turn up from Taunton to fit the proper full set. B

5th September being the very latest date it will happen. Reality will happen sooner than having to do hundreds of buses on one day.