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overthewater

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The changes have started to appear, it would seem 38 getting a change aswell...

  • PM0000923/326 Cancelled
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Regend Road Edinburgh to Deans South via Sighthill, East Calder, Mid Calder, Livingston
    Service number: N2 ()
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 27 Jan 2019

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    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Regent Road, Edinburgh to South Bridge Street Bathgate via Corstorphine, Broxburn, Uphall, Dechmont, Kirkliston, Winchburgh
    Service number: N1 ()
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 27 Jan 2019

  • PM0000923/340 Cancelled
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Winchburgh, Glendevon to Edinburgh Regent Road via Kirkliston, Newbridge, Ratho Station, Haymarket
    Service number: 38 ()
    Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop
    Effective date: 27 Jan 2019
 
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Gingerbus1991

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So the 38 is to get pulled from Winchburgh to Edinburgh?

Looks like evn more gaps for LCB to come in on.
 

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Tut tut tut...

38 is operated by midland bluebird...that is the peak runs operated by the Livingston depot.
 

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These are part of the network changes in West Lothian which start on Monday 28/1/19.
The night buses being rerouted to cover more areas.
38 Livingston do for larbert at peak is being withdrawn .
26 will change to compete with X27/X28 between Centre and Bathgate
27 going it serve Dedridge West in both directions as requested by those at public meeting .
22 to service St Johns as well.
 

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What the change to the 21 and 23? Will the 25 change to go via Starlaw road? If not Deans will have 10 buses an hour to Bathgate?

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    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Deans, Livingston to Leith Street via Uphall, Broxburn, Newbridge
    Service number: N25 ()
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

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    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Leith Street, Omni Centre Edinburgh via Livingston, Hermiston, Sighthill
    Service number: N23 ()
    Service type: Limited Stop
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

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    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Bathgate, South Bridge Street via Knighstridge, Ladywell, Howden, Livingston the Centre, West Calder, Loganlea, Stoneyburn, Fauldhouse, Whitburn
    Service number: 26 (26A)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 28 Jan 2019
 

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What the change to the 21 and 23? Will the 25 change to go via Starlaw road? If not Deans will have 10 buses an hour to Bathgate?
Yes quite a few changes in the pipeline so should make for interesting first 6 months of 2019.
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    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Deans, Livingston to Leith Street via Uphall, Broxburn, Newbridge
    Service number: N25 ()
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

  • PM0000923/345 Registered
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Leith Street, Omni Centre Edinburgh via Livingston, Hermiston, Sighthill
    Service number: N23 ()
    Service type: Limited Stop
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

  • PM0000923/335 Registered
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Bathgate, South Bridge Street via Knighstridge, Ladywell, Howden, Livingston the Centre, West Calder, Loganlea, Stoneyburn, Fauldhouse, Whitburn
    Service number: 26 (26A)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 28 Jan 2019
What the change to the 21 and 23? Will the 25 change to go via Starlaw road? If not Deans will have 10 buses an hour to Bathgate?

  • PM0000923/346 Registered
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Deans, Livingston to Leith Street via Uphall, Broxburn, Newbridge
    Service number: N25 ()
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

  • PM0000923/345 Registered
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Leith Street, Omni Centre Edinburgh via Livingston, Hermiston, Sighthill
    Service number: N23 ()
    Service type: Limited Stop
    Effective date: 01 Feb 2019

  • PM0000923/335 Registered
    FIRST SCOTLAND EAST LTD
    Route: Bathgate, South Bridge Street to Bathgate, South Bridge Street via Knighstridge, Ladywell, Howden, Livingston the Centre, West Calder, Loganlea, Stoneyburn, Fauldhouse, Whitburn
    Service number: 26 (26A)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 28 Jan 2019
Yes quite a few changes to increase the network from First so should make for an interesting first 6 months in 2019.
 

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That would be the best thing of all time if there did, alas it's just a spilt reg because of EU laws and driver allowances.
I take it the Linlithgow to Edinburgh section isn’t doing anywhere near what I think it will be?

I’ve never payed attention to the 38’s.
 
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That would be the best thing of all time if there did, alas it's just a spilt reg because of EU laws and driver allowances.

What I’m meaning (I think) is not Edinburgh to Stirling through service,yes they split it because of eu thing but will they still continue like as they do just now ,with 1 half hourly Edinburgh-Stirling or all just Edinburgh-Camelon and Stirling-Linlithgow.. I get that there’s separate reg. for that .sorry if I’m being confusing. I think I’m confusing myself
 

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You'll just have to wait and see if the frequency gets altered, or if the most that is happening are the peak services being returned to Larbert depot.

They still need to paint the 38s into the new livery, they still carry 38A branding and haven't bothered taking that off.
 
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Here’s hoping it’s back to a 15 min daytime then and yes they are slow to get the branding sorted .i remember the 2 pink branded for 100 service that ran nearly a year after they sorted it , 69257/8
 

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Yes you are right about the pink buses, that got ridiculous. Then again they seem to do what they like with painted buses, just look at them painting the Solars that were just brought up only to introduce a new livery soon afterwards, or branding a few Volvos up for the 38 only to send at least one of them up to Aberdeen, still with the complete livery on it! All these liveries right now remind me of the First Edinburgh days in the late 90s, early 00s with all the different paint jobs they came up with!
 

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Yes you are right about the pink buses, that got ridiculous. Then again they seem to do what they like with painted buses, just look at them painting the Solars that were just brought up only to introduce a new livery soon afterwards, or branding a few Volvos up for the 38 only to send at least one of them up to Aberdeen, still with the complete livery on it! All these liveries right now remind me of the First Edinburgh days in the late 90s, early 00s with all the different paint jobs they came up with!

The Ex-FSE B7RLEs in Aberdeen are to be repainted early next year. 69294 (the example with branding) still carries it as it may do more damage than it's worth trying to remove it, for now it's only meant to be used on peak extras (although it's still making it on all day work).
 

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I doubt the 15min service will be coming back full time to Kirkliston side of the route, however its hoped a few extra runs will be slotted in.
 

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First Scotland East are launching Network Changes in West Lothian, effective from January 28th 2019.
We want to make sure you're prepared for these changes before travelling with us so we've summarised some of the key points for you below:

Improved links from Livingston to Bathgate.

More direct links to St John’s Hospital from Whitburn, Blackburn, Seafield and Livingston Village.

Service 27 improved to offer new links to Livingston South station route through Dedridge simplified to offer both ways operation through the estate.

Vast improvement of frequency to service 38 between Linlithgow and Edinburgh.

https://www.firstgroup.com/south-ea...-service-updates/west-lothian-network-changes


West Lothian Network Changes
First Scotland East are launching Network Changes in West Lothian, effective from January 28th 2019.
We want to make sure you're prepared for these changes before travelling with us so we've summarised some of the key points for you below:

Improved links from Livingston to Bathgate.

More direct links to St John’s Hospital from Whitburn, Blackburn, Seafield and Livingston Village.

Service 27 improved to offer new links to Livingston South station route through Dedridge simplified to offer both ways operation through the estate.

Vast improvement of frequency to service 38 between Linlithgow and Edinburgh.
What are the benefits of travelling with us?
More buses, simpler routes, simpler frequencies and new links
ALL First buses accept contactless payments and mobile ticketing
Regular Friday/Saturday Night Services connect West Lothian and Edinburgh
You can download and print timetables directly from our website, and plan your journey online here.

See below for more detailed information on our new services, routes as well as all the timetables, so you can plan your journey in advance.

Services not listed below will continue to operate unchanged and these timetables can be found here.

Updated timetables available to view and print below:

21,22 23, X23, N23 24,25,N25 26, 26A 27 38
Service Details of change
21
Whitburn – Armadale – Bathgate – Blackburn – Kirkton Campus – Livingston The Centre

Slightly revised timetable introduced Monday to Saturday with no change to frequency

22
Harthill – Whitburn – Blackburn – Livingston Village – Livingston The Centre

Now serving St John's Hospital

Route extended, Monday to Saturday, from Livingston The Centre to St John’s Hospital via Howden

No change on Sundays

X23
Broxburn – Uphall – Craigshill – Livingston The Centre – Mid Calder – East Calder – Edinburgh

Slightly revised timetable during the early morning, Monday to Friday, with no change to frequency

26, 26A
Bathgate – Whitburn – Fauldhouse – Bents – Addiewell – West Calder – Livingston The Centre – Howden – St John’s Hospital – Ladywell – Knightsridge – Livingston North

Revised route and timetable, Monday to Saturday

Alternate journeys, numbered 26A, will divert at Carmondean Roundabout to Bathgate via Deans North and Tesco Distribution Centre

Direct link provided from Bathgate and Deans to St John’s Hospital

No change on Sundays

27
St John’s Hospital – Craigshill – Livingston The Centre – Dedridge

New link to Livingston South Station

Revised route and timetable with no change to frequency

Dedridge will be served in both directions and the route extended to Livingston South Station via Murieston East

38
Stirling – Bannockburn – Forth Valley Royal Hospital – Larbert – Falkirk – Linlithgow – Winchburgh – Kirkliston – Edinburgh

Improved daytime frequency

Frequency increased to every 15 minutes over the full route, during the day, Monday to Saturday

Evening journeys will now serve Bridgend Village

N1 (N25) Night Bus
Edinburgh – Kirkliston – Winchburgh – Broxburn – Uphall – Livingston – Carmondean – Deans

Weekend night service renumbered and rerouted

The departure times from Edinburgh will be revised to 0100 & 0315

City Centre departure point relocated to Leith Street at Omni Centre

N2 (N23) Night Bus
Edinburgh – Kirknewton – East Calder – Mid Calder – Dedridge East – Livingston – Eliburn – Bathgate

Weekend night service renumbered and rerouted

The departure times from Edinburgh will be revised to 0100 & 0315

City Centre departure point relocated to Leith Street at Omni Centre

22, 26, 27
The Centre – St John’s Hospital

Frequent journeys from The Centre to St John's Hospital

Up to 10 journeys per hour provided from The Centre to St John’s Hospital bus stance

Connections available to and from numerous destinations at The Centre
 

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The change to 22 seem pointless, why would you go via shops to get to Hospital, heck you can see the Hospital when it comes out of Kirkton Road north.. I dare say 38 has gone back up to every 15mins to stop LCB knocking on the door...
 

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The change to 22 seem pointless, why would you go via shops to get to Hospital, heck you can see the Hospital when it comes out of Kirkton Road north.. I dare say 38 has gone back up to every 15mins to stop LCB knocking on the door...
There has been some suggestion that the hospital has been one of the areas where Lothian has done ok so guess First are trying to kybosh that?

38 does look a defensive move.
 

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I think it seems bizarre to have the N23 and N25 leave at exactly the same time. They should alternate them to provide two connections to Livingston Centre catching more public.

I’ve thought for a while the 23/24/25 should be revised in the evenings to provide 15min frequency to Livingston all evening.
 

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So service 27 is no longer a circular? Every 15mins is overkill, even at every 20mins it would be alright.
 

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So service 27 is no longer a circular? Every 15mins is overkill, even at every 20mins it would be alright.
Nope, runs both ways through Dedridge to Livingston South. I'd guess the frequency being every 15 mins is to provide 8 buses an hour to the hospital.
 

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So service 27 is no longer a circular? Every 15mins is overkill, even at every 20mins it would be alright.
It's going through Dedridge West as opposed to up onto A71 , in response to the public meeting where people of Dedrige West wanted a connection to Health Centre at Nigel Rise and a connection to Dedridge East for an Edinburgh bus without going to Centre . The bonus is it goes to Livi South Railway Station for anyone wanting to go there . At least for once First listened to public at a meeting and have acted on what they wanted done.
 

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Really should have been village - hospital - bus stance.;)
They didn't want to change the timing to Livi centre,percentage wise the Centre is main attraction and its going up through Howden so that's another service on that corridor and it makes an extra bus from Livi to St Johns .
 

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It's going through Dedridge West as opposed to up onto A71 , in response to the public meeting where people of Dedrige West wanted a connection to Health Centre at Nigel Rise and a connection to Dedridge East for an Edinburgh bus without going to Centre . The bonus is it goes to Livi South Railway Station for anyone wanting to go there . At least for once First listened to public at a meeting and have acted on what they wanted done.

It also means First could bid for that No9 contract and just clamp it on to the 27 and very little cost. ;)
 

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It also means First could bid for that No9 contract and just clamp it on to the 27 and very little cost. ;)
My thoughts too - they could probably offer a much more frequent service, as with an extra bus they could just about run around Murieston every 15 minutes.
 

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I hope Lothian will go after that No40 tender... That in itself would help it out alot..
 

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The C11 service timetable has been amended as of today - Cambusbarron will now be the start and end of the journey and Aberfoyle is now back to being city centre via Dobbies etc to Aberfoyle.

A bit of a climb down from First after their "council funded route cant go the same route as a non council funded bus" nonsense when they applied this exceptionally unpopular route change. Back to 45 minutes from Stirling to Aberfoyle rather than the hour plus that the Cambusbarron excursion made it.
 
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