First regional management structures

[baza585]

Recent developments in FSY has prompted me to start a new thread, where folk can post details of the regional structures in their areas. In terms of my area

First Hampshire Dorset and Berkshire covers Dorset (Weymouth), Southampton, Solent (Hoeford and Hilsea) and Berkshire (Slough). AFAIK MD is Marc Reddy but not sure who he reports to.

Other contributors welcome. If there is a definitive current UK bus structure chart anywhere online, a link to it would be most welcome.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Recent developments in FSY has prompted me to start a new thread, where folk can post details of the regional structures in their areas. In terms of my area

First Hampshire Dorset and Berkshire covers Dorset (Weymouth), Southampton, Solent (Hoeford and Hilsea) and Berkshire (Slough). AFAIK MD is Marc Reddy but not sure who he reports to.

Other contributors welcome. If there is a definitive current UK bus structure chart anywhere online, a link to it would be most welcome.

First South West (Kernow, SPS, Somerset) is Alex Carter as MD, with Marc Morgan Huws as Ops Dir; can't remember the local manager for Somerset (but used to be in Bath)
First West of England is James Freeman as MD
First Cymru is Andrew Sherrington as MD
First Scotland is Andrew Jarvis as MD - don't recall the local managers
First East (Eastern Counties, Essex) has Steve Vickers as MD?

All report into Dave Alexander, Divisional Director UK Bus IIRC.

 

[M803UYA]

June 2020 edition of Buses reports that Andrew Sherrington resigned as Cymru MD on 1st April. This would be immediately after the financial year end for First.

First Cymru is Andrew Sherrington as MD

 

[swifty]

First South West (Kernow, SPS, Somerset) is Alex Carter as MD, with Marc Morgan Huws as Ops Dir; can't remember the local manager for Somerset (but used to be in Bath)

If you’re thinking of Aled I believe he’s left and is now with Go-Ahead in Dublin.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

June 2020 edition of Buses reports that Andrew Sherrington resigned as Cymru MD on 1st April. This would be immediately after the financial year end for First.

Don't get Buses and confess that one had passed me by.

If you’re thinking of Aled I believe he’s left and is now with Go-Ahead in Dublin.

Yeah, that's the guy. Was talking to someone at BoS last year and they thought he was really good. Didn't realise he'd moved to pastures new - bit of a culture change there!

 

[Robertj21a]

I doubt it. Mainline was a bit tarnished by the end and it's not like we've seen the return of many other old names.

I lose track of who runs York! Given where most recent vehicle transfers have come from, I thought it was West Yorkshire but be good to know.

Surely, York has always come under FWY ?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Surely, York has always come under FWY ?

I think there was some link with FSY @ Donny for a while and quite a few ex FSY vehicles there.

 

[AB93]

York is its own OpCo in a similar manner to Aberdeen, albeit shares some support functions with FWY.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

York is its own OpCo in a similar manner to Aberdeen, albeit shares some support functions with FWY.

I think that's what we were trying to work out - who provided the support functions?

 

[Galaxy]

I do remember FSY was Sheffield and Rotherham and Doncaster was lumped into York for a time in the 2010s.

This is some time ago and of course before First shut Rotherham depot.

 

[B7rleThrasher]

Don't get Buses and confess that one had passed me by.



Yeah, that's the guy. Was talking to someone at BoS last year and they thought he was really good. Didn't realise he'd moved to pastures new - bit of a culture change there!

I moved to Ireland back in October and absolutely love it, incredibly different to running buses in rural Somerset and Go-Ahead are a very different organisation to work for.

Considerably more local control and autonomy and a very difficult culture in the depots - I miss my colleagues back in Somerset, a superb bunch who take so much pride in their operation. Somerset is now run by Kevin who was my Staff Manager when I was there.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I (Aled) moved to Ireland back in October and absolutely love it, incredibly different to running buses in rural Somerset and Go-Ahead are a very different organisation to work for.

Considerably more local control and autonomy and a very difficult culture in the depots - I miss my colleagues back in Somerset, a superb bunch who take so much pride in their operation. Somerset is now run by Kevin who was my Staff Manager when I was there.

Thanks for responding. I won't embarrass you further with more praise or identify the person!

Having worked in the UK and Ireland myself, it's certainly different. Hope it continues to go well for you.

 

[Volvodart]

I think there was some link with FSY @ Donny for a while and quite a few ex FSY vehicles there.

York and FSY had the same MD for a time, but it did not last long.

 

[Jordan Adam]

First Scotland is Andrew Jarvis as MD - don't recall the local managers

The local managers or "Operations Directors" (officially) are...

David Phillips for Aberdeen & Scotland East.
Duncan Cameron for Glasgow (former Aberdeen MD prior to 2015)

 

[richw]

First South West (Kernow, SPS, Somerset) is Alex Carter as MD, with Marc Morgan Huws as Ops Dir;

Marc is commercial director

 

[richw]

First South West (Kernow, SPS, Somerset) is Alex Carter as MD, with Marc Morgan Huws as Ops Dir;

SpS is not part of FSW. FSW is just a 50% share holder. It isn’t in Marcs responsibility

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

SpS is not part of FSW. FSW is just a 50% share holder. It isn’t in Marcs responsibility

Think we all know it’s a JV between JJP and First South West. Alex Carter is a director.

 

[richw]

Think we all know it’s a JV between JJP and First South West. Alex Carter is a director.

Your post Clearly and incorrectly said SPS is part of FSW. Your now changing your mind on Alex’s role based on being told you were incorrect

First South West (Kernow, SPS, Somerset) is Alex Carter as MD, with Marc Morgan Huws as Ops Dir

SPS is a stand-alone company that has its own Managing Director and structure.

Alex Carter is indeed a Director but the company is not part of the FSW structure.

The structural relationship with First is confined to the fact that First is a 50% shareholder and receives a dividend from SPS.

The day to day interactions do include First South West providing some management and resource support but SPS is not directly controlled or run by First.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Your post Clearly and incorrectly said SPS is part of FSW. Your now changing your mind on Alex’s role based on being told you were incorrect


SPS is a stand-alone company that has its own Managing Director and structure.

Alex Carter is indeed a Director but the company is not part of the FSW structure.

The structural relationship with First is confined to the fact that First is a 50% shareholder and receives a dividend from SPS.

The day to day interactions do include First South West providing some management and resource support but SPS is not directly controlled or run by First.

Nothing of the sort. I know that SPS has it's own financial standing, and is and has been since formation, been a JV between JJP (Jonathan Pratt - formerly of Crosville) and First. Clearly and evidently, it has links to FSW as the dividend is reported through their financials, AC is a director, and clearly there are operational links not least evidenced by the recent loan of vehicles from FK to SPS.

I put it under FSW and AC more for convenience and nothing more, and if that has offended your sensibilities, then I can only apologise.

Appreciate I misrepresented MMH's title/role but other than that, think you're rather seizing on "something".

 

[richw]

I put it under FSW and AC more for convenience and nothing more, and if that has offended your sensibilities, then I can only apologise.

It’s completely incorrect and your post had them down as under FSW management. There is no offence to my sensibility, you are posting false information that needs corrected as a public internet site. Instead of arguing and trying to justify your inaccurate information accept you’re wrong!

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

It’s completely incorrect and your post had them down as under FSW management. There is no offence to my sensibility, you are posting false information that needs corrected as a public internet site. Instead of arguing and trying to justify your inaccurate information accept you’re wrong!

Sorry - please appreciate I put it under there for convenience. I know (and have since formation) of the relationship of SPS to First Group and to FSW. That really is it.

Had I have known how keen you were to ensure absolute, fulsome accuracy, then I would have recorded greater detail to avoid any such misunderstanding.

 

[cnjb8]

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