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[spw24]

because some of the Scania,s were on University shuttles today along with Unibus Enviro,s and a couple of RMs at least.

 

[D2007wsm]

Aha.... so the reports of their demise were over-reported!!

The old ones were put last Saturday when there was UWE services, generally they are not seen about in the week anymore.

 

[Marcus Fryer]

Open day shuttles at BPW today are parking up in Hunts Ground Road (by Parkway North P&R) as the west car park is full of RR buses to Newport.
On the shuttle:
33497, 33685, 33967, 36816/17/24, 37347/58.
33793, 33943/46/56 on RR (plus several coaches). 66956 on RR to STJ.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

The old ones were put last Saturday when there was UWE services, generally they are not seen about in the week anymore.

Though clearly not gone for refurbishment.

 

[freetoview33]

Though clearly not gone for refurbishment.

What is the Pvr of the 172\3\4?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

What is the Pvr of the 172\3\4?

Think it’s 11, iirc.

 

[freetoview33]

Think it’s 11, iirc.

So with 903, X48 and U.W.E there should be more than enough.
Just leaves the question of what will get rid of the ALX 400's left in Bristol.

 

[DaveHarries]

Just leaves the question of what will get rid of the ALX 400's left in Bristol.

Seeing as I live on the route of the 3 and 4 in Bristol I would rather have Enviro400 MMCs but, frankly, I will be happy with anything double-decker as long as it isn't a Wright StreetDeck.

Dave

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

So with 903, X48 and U.W.E there should be more than enough.
Just leaves the question of what will get rid of the ALX 400's left in Bristol.

Given the work to repaint and brand many of the ALXs, perhaps the 53 or 55 plate Geminis might be more likely to go sooner, having already lost 6 of the latter?

 

[freetoview33]

Seeing as I live on the route of the 3 and 4 in Bristol I would rather have Enviro400 MMCs but, frankly, I will be happy with anything double-decker as long as it isn't a Wright StreetDeck.

Dave

A streetdeck would be better than some of whats on there.

 

[DaveHarries]

A streetdeck would be better than some of whats on there.

True but, having travelled on the ones on the 70 and 376, I am not a fan of the StreetDecks.

As far as the ALX400s are concerned I see from the Bristol Post that 32095 (KP51 WCW) had a bump with a car at the top of Blackboy Hill, Bristol this morning. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bus-involved-collision-busy-bristol-1683495

Dave

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

True but, having travelled on the ones on the 70 and 376, I am not a fan of the StreetDecks.

As far as the ALX400s are concerned I see from the Bristol Post that 32095 (KP51 WCW) had a bump with a car at the top of Blackboy Hill, Bristol this morning. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bus-involved-collision-busy-bristol-1683495

Dave

Love the BP writing again with statement that a brief closure will have caused the delays in the area incl to the open day rather than the open day being the issue. Hardly looks a serious smash

 

[Whiteway215]

What Tridents are still operating with Buses of Somerset please?

 

[CD]

What Tridents are still operating with Buses of Somerset please?

32818, 32866, 32954, 32961 at Bridgwater.
33377-82 at Taunton.

 

[NorthernSpirit]

Just leaves the question of what will get rid of the ALX 400's left in Bristol.

What's the PVR of the 90? As the remaining ALX400's could be placed on that route, making it the only route in Bristol to be soley operated with them. Just a thought.

 

[Whiteway215]

32818, 32866, 32954, 32961 at Bridgwater.
33377-82 at Taunton.

Many thanks for that. I wonder how much longer the first four will last.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

What's the PVR of the 90? As the remaining ALX400's could be placed on that route, making it the only route in Bristol to be soley operated with them. Just a thought.

PVR is 8, I think, met by 35140-7.

However, the 6/7 are solely operated by ALX (or at least that’s the plan).

Many thanks for that. I wonder how much longer the first four will last.

Not long judging by the state of 32818.

 

[freetoview33]

So in Bristol

1: E400mmc
2: E400mmc/Gemini/Bio Bus
3/4: ALX400s with the odd Gemini
5: Still darts?
6/7: ALX400s with the odd Gemini
8/9: Streetlites with the odd Dart
17: Geminis
19/19A: ALX400s
24: Streetlites with the odd Dart
36: ???
37: ???
39: Geminis
42/42A/43/44/45: Geminis
46: ??
47: ??
48/49/49A: E400mmc and the odd Gemini
48A: Electric bus and E400mmc and Gemini.
50: E400s?
70/71: Streetdecks
72: Eclipses
73: Geminis
75/76: Anything but mainly Geminis.
82/X49: Geminis
90: ??

Ran out of time for the rest

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

So in Bristol

1: E400mmc
2: E400mmc/Gemini/Bio Bus
3/4: ALX400s with the odd Gemini
5: Still darts?
6/7: ALX400s with the odd Gemini
8/9: Streetlites with the odd Dart
17: Geminis
19/19A: ALX400s
24: Streetlites with the odd Dart
36: ???
37: ???
39: Geminis
42/42A/43/44/45: Geminis
46: ??
47: ??
48/49/49A: E400mmc and the odd Gemini
48A: Electric bus and E400mmc and Gemini.
50: E400s?
70/71: Streetdecks
72: Eclipses
73: Geminis
75/76: Anything but mainly Geminis.
82/X49: Geminis
90: ??

Ran out of time for the rest

In terms of additions and amendments...

There are many instances of vehicles appearing on other routes. For instance, 6/7 should be ALX - Geminis will appear but hey, they can appear anywhere. Recently had them on the 5 whilst ALXs were on the 43! So the “odd Gemini” is not really an allocation but just part and parcel of the battle to meet schedules. So...

5 Darts
8/9 and 24 StreetLite - no Darts at HE
35 Dart
36 StreetLite but B7 Geminis for selected boards
37 ALX - though as with any Bath route, anything can appear (except e400H or B7LA)
50 e400 but lack of spares means one board is regularly StreetLite
90 Streetdeck

I always get confused about the Yate services so will defer to South Glos correspondents on those.

 

[D2007wsm]

South Glous Services, this is what is should be allocated:

• 46: B7RLEs
• X46: Geminis
• 47: Geminis
• X47: Geminis
• X49: Geminis
• T1: Scanias
• T2: B7RLEs or Geminis

However, anything can appear on any of the routes, quite often a ALX400 will replace Geminis or even B7RLEs. Scanias do also appear on the T2. I don't know about the 82 as I never see it, but presumably a decker of some sort.

 

[Whiteway215]

36807 still in Bath today on Odd Down P & R

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

South Glous Services, this is what is should be allocated:

• 46: B7RLEs
• X46: Geminis
• 47: Geminis
• X47: Geminis
• X49: Geminis
• T1: Scanias
• T2: B7RLEs or Geminis

However, anything can appear on any of the routes, quite often a ALX400 will replace Geminis or even B7RLEs. Scanias do also appear on the T2. I don't know about the 82 as I never see it, but presumably a decker of some sort.

Tbf, ftw had done the 82 - it’s a Gemini route as it interworks with the X49

 

[D2007wsm]

Tbf, ftw had done the 82 - it’s a Gemini route as it interworks with the X49

That one never twigged, of course it is since the timetable change! As I never see it, I never really think about it.

 

[CD]

Not long judging by the state of 32818.

I rode on 32818 on 21 last Saturday, didn`t see any problem with it?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I rode on 32818 on 21 last Saturday, didn`t see any problem with it?

Was very down at heel last time I saw it though it had survived the trip from Bridgwater to Wells on the X75

 

[freetoview33]

In terms of additions and amendments...

There are many instances of vehicles appearing on other routes. For instance, 6/7 should be ALX - Geminis will appear but hey, they can appear anywhere. Recently had them on the 5 whilst ALXs were on the 43! So the “odd Gemini” is not really an allocation but just part and parcel of the battle to meet schedules. So...

5 Darts
8/9 and 24 StreetLite - no Darts at HE
35 Dart
36 StreetLite but B7 Geminis for selected boards
37 ALX - though as with any Bath route, anything can appear (except e400H or B7LA)
50 e400 but lack of spares means one board is regularly StreetLite
90 Streetdeck

I always get confused about the Yate services so will defer to South Glos correspondents on those.

Well with the 3/4 it is the odd old gemini about 1 a day at the moment but some days can have 4/5 on there. Very rarely does anything else turn up on there.

The 75/76 though really has anything and everything on! But as they are the main routes.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Well with the 3/4 it is the odd old gemini about 1 a day at the moment but some days can have 4/5 on there. Very rarely does anything else turn up on there.

The 75/76 though really has anything and everything on! But as they are the main routes.

I was more directly referring to the 6/7

The 75/76 is mainly Gemini but, as you say, it can feature almost anything from e400mmc or even Eclipses and StreetLites.

 

[Martin2012]

I've largely seen geminis on the 46 over the last couple of months but with the older single deck B7RLEs still appearing every so often.

I have seen B7RLEs a few times on there over the last fortnight.

 

[Private Baxter]

I've largely seen geminis on the 46 over the last couple of months but with the older single deck B7RLEs still appearing every so often.

I have seen B7RLEs a few times on there over the last fortnight.

I'e never seen anything but a B7RLE on the 46!

 

[D2007wsm]

The 46 was more often than not a Gemini on a Sunday as it interworked with the 78, but that is no more as it no longer operates on Sundays.