Football teams on trains

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by Art1983, 12 Oct 2019 at 16:15.

  1. Art1983

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    3 national league games were postponed today after sutton (due to play away at fylde) dagenham (due to play away at stockport) and Dover (due to play away at barrow) were all stranded at euston due to a sad incident south of bletchley which happened in the early hours this morning. very risky sporting teams with long journeys travelling on the same day but I think Dover and sutton were taking a big risk, stockport should have been ok but the circumstances were unfortunate
     
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  3. Essexman

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    Most non league clubs can’t afford hotel costs for overnight stays. Good to see them using trains.
     
  4. mmh

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    I'm a Sutton supporter, the team often travels by train - I've been on the same train about half a dozen times. A coach meeting them at the destination station can be a lot more practical than a coach all the way.
     
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    I heard the Barrow manager on the radio earlier. He wasn't happy that Dover weren't travelling until today. And with a schedule that left no room for delays. They were expecting a crowd of 3,000, so the match being called off has cost them a lot of money.

    He said Barrow have one of the lowest budgets in the division but they always travel the day before if they have a long way to go.
     
  6. Art1983

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    Clearly today was just a very unfortunate incident with unfortunate timing as I've never known 3 games called off in footballs 5th tier due to a railway issue before.
     
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    Coming back from London early this year I had QPR traveling up to Sheffield on the same train as me. Even got a at seat first class service because we couldn't get though to the buffet for the weekend first class service.
     
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    I do wonder what the environmental footprint of shifting teams and thousands of fans up and down the country every weekend is....

    Teams travelling by rail is to be congratulated!
     
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    No problem with them travelling by train at any level(makes sense on ECML and WCML)
    Suspect there maybe a review of the situation as Dover and Sutton wouldn't have left much room for error/delay (09:30 ex Euston for Dover, heading to Barrow and 10:30 ex Euston for Sutton heading to AFC Fylde by all accounts )
     
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    Can't remember which league team it was, but wasn't they a manager who decided that if they could get to an away game by train then they would?
     
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    Barrow can take a running jump. They have no place to be taking the high ground. Never been to the football ground, I and about 150 supporters, and the team, got as close as Preston before we were told the game was off the other year. Lots of us had hotels booked, so frankly my heart doesn't bleed for him.
     
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    Absolutely it is, but there is a problem: the three teams who failed to arrive for their away games today are likely to be fined for it. Barrow in particular have been shooting their mouth off about Dover's non-arrival, demanding that Barrow are awarded the points by default, calling Dover a "tinpot club", and so on. It is claimed that when Dover's supporters - on a coach - arrived at the ground, a Barrow official informed them that "Your bunch of c-words haven't bothered to come".

    Will teams such as Dover "risk" travelling by train again?
     
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    These days you can be in much the same boat if there's an accident on the motorway, and it doesn't take a fatality to do it either. I think the best bet is for them to travel earlier, depending on the kick off time. I don't know if they still do but I Arsenal seemed to be big fans of travelling by train under Arsene Wenger, often using the 'Pretendolino' with seats being filled by travelling fans, or just travelling in First on regular services, I seem to recall them arriving in Leeds on the morning of an FA cup match in 2011, but that was an evening kick off.
     
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    If they've got any sense. The issue isn't mode of transport, it's travelling that distance on the day of the game. A coach journey from Dover to to Barrow will afford many opportunities to be catastrophically delayed.
     
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    At least he doesn't appear to be picking his arse.
     
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    Manchester United do (or did until recently) often travel to games in London by train, from Stockport as a rule.
     
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    I support a non league team and have never known the away side to come by train even when the ground used to be next door to the station (it's 2 miles away now) they have some pretty long journeys as much as 150 miles and always a team coach arrives with the away team
     
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    Man City travel by train! Though if they were going a distance like Dover to Barrow I imagine they’d fly.
     
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    Liverpool used to travel to London games by train presumably the night before and return the same evening. I used to travel the Euston - Liverpool route frequently when I worked for the railway in Liverpool. It was not unusual to see the whole team sitting in one half of a first class coach with the likes of Emlyn Hughes, Kevin Keegan, Steve Heighway, etc. walking past at times. Nobody bothered them.
     
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    I support Wigan Athletic and live in London. A number of times I have found myself on the same train back to London as the opposition team after a match at the DW Stadium.
     
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    Man city also have a deal with virgin trains that give fans a discount when travelling to away fixtures by train.
     
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    If I recall correctly Arsenal received heavy criticism a number of years ago for flying to an away fixture with Norwich from London when going by train or coach would have been easier surely? Flight lasted like 18 minutes or something.
     
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    Dover have been travelling by train for many years, mainly up north where the ECML and WCML can be used, hiring out 1st coaches. The squad meet in London, players rarely live in Dover anymore.

    Games at Macclesfield, Tranmere, Harrogate, Fylde, Wrexham, etc. Sometimes involving coach transfers to avoid using local services, eg in August I arrived in Leeds and transferred to Northern, they went the rest of the way to Harrogate by coach.

    Today we probably would have gone by coach from Lancaster.

    Today was first railway failure, perhaps they should have left Euston on the 0830, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    Occasionally we fly, eg to Hartlepool the other week.
     
  26. Scotty

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    The day before, though.
     
  27. baz962

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    Euston to st pancras by coach is plain lazy lol.
     
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    It was mid-morning, not "the early hours"
     
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    It is just unfortunate- the Dover statement notes that the railways are often more reliable than roads.

    I remember a Hearts v Kilmarnock game being called off because the Kilmarnock team bus got stuck in an M8 motorway closure. Irony was a lot of the fan buses got there because they diverted- the team bus being early got stuck in the closure section.
     
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    We got to Bletchley this morning for the train to Euston, and whilst I parked the car, my partner was told that Euston was closed, and was advised that we travel to Bedford for a London train from there. We drove to Luton Airport Parkway, got to London late, and when we returned to St Pancras for our return journey to Luton Airport Parkway at about 17:20, found that no trains were travelling north, due to a "person hit by a train" somewhere south of St Albans City. Eventually we were allowed past the barriers, and caught a delayed train stopping at St Albans City etc., and terminating at Bedford.

    Thoughts with all concerned.
     
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    Without going too far off topic - it would make more sense to have the old ‘north’ and ‘south’ divisions to avoid lower league clubs with limited funds having to make such journeys - Dover to Barrow is a heck of a journey for anyone!
     

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