Former Grand Central HSTs now with EMT

[Domh245]

Any news on 43467's naming?

 

[59CosG95]

Any news on 43467's naming?

I saw that one side (the left hand side with respect to the cab) has gained a "British Transport Police Nottingham" plate. The powercar also has a revised version of EMT's livery.

 

[SPADTrap]

Not my photo.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Big fan of that new livery. Looks like its still missing some white at the back and an orange line?

 

[Domh245]

Funnily enough, I'm now sat next to it at the station. Very shiny, and about to work the 1532 to London. Would agree that there is some detailing missing on the rear

Edit to add: it's got an etches park depot sticker, as expected

 

[Royston Vasey]

Love what they've done to the buffers!

 

[cactustwirly]

Looks amazing! Literally got back from uni when I saw Dom's post! So I ran to the station to catch it to Market Harborough

 

[59CosG95]

Suppose we can now refer to any service with 43467 on the back as an "MTVP", rather like the "MTVal" nickname given to services with a Valenta one end and an MTU the other!

 

[Domh245]

I suppose we could, and for completeness sake, it was 43043 on the rear. I vaguely recall reading that these wont be used in a common pool, but will stick with their ex-GC rakes, so there may only be a few MTVP services to see

 

[XCTurbostar]

That would make sense with the livery then because I’d expect the mk3s be mostly blue to match.

 

[fgwrich]

I do like that livery revision! I lot less fussy and silly than the standard EMT version with the 'Swooshes' or dare I say it 'Willow Leaf' suiting the shape of the PC rather well. Also nice to see that they haven't continued the livery up and onto the cab roof as per the 1st version & GWR.

Another shot of it at Nottingham - Not my photo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12182...6kJ-Y7BCzK-Y7BBWa-Y4t9MK-Xso1Xm-Y4t9zv-XFKrZM

 

[43096]

I do like that livery revision! I lot less fussy and silly than the standard EMT version with the 'Swooshes' or dare I say it 'Willow Leaf' suiting the shape of the PC rather well. Also nice to see that they haven't continued the livery up and onto the cab roof as per the 1st version & GWR.

The alternative is that they had a perfectly good livery and the MDTR just can't help messing with something that is established and works for no apparent reason.

 

[fgwrich]

The alternative is that they had a perfectly good livery and the MDTR just can't help messing with something that is established and works for no apparent reason.

Long established or not, it's nice to see a revision to the Stagecoach / East Mids scheme bringing it into a much smarter, less clunky scheme. However, Is it me or is it slightly reminiscent of the early FGW Barbie scheme with the Willow Leaf around the cab? This time it suits the PC rather well.

(Again not my photo)



https://www.flickr.com/photos/47843...J9dT1P-EXhoqd-221mMNL-EXhefj-EXhbcL/lightbox/

 

[jopsuk]

I'm still a bit amazed that removing the buffers and reinstating the fairing wasn't a budgeted for item in the Class 91 introduction programme.

 

[D365]

I'm still a bit amazed that removing the buffers and reinstating the fairing wasn't a budgeted for item in the Class 91 introduction programme.

Leaving aesthetic aside, what difference does retaining the buffers make on a 43?

 

[MG11]

Does anyone know what the interior is like? EMT have done a good job with the livery, I'll be interested to see if the flagship Meridians recieve the revised livery. The buffers add a little variety to things I guess.

 

[xc170]

The rake of Mk3's it's puling, are they original EMT Mk3's or are they the GC trailers the power cars came with?

 

[MG11]

The rake of Mk3's it's puling, are they original EMT Mk3's or are they the GC trailers the power cars came with?

I was wondering the same, I assumed they were ex GC, hence my question on the interiors, but looking closer, the paint looks a lot older than the power car paint.

 

[xc170]

I was wondering the same, I assumed they were ex GC, hence my question on the interiors, but looking closer, the paint looks a lot older than the power car paint.

Yes, I've just done a flickr search, the rear power car was still in the older EMT livery so I'm guessing the rest of the set is not ex GC.

 

[SPADTrap]

The rest of the set isn't close to ready hence today's run being a one off running with current stock.

 

[XCTurbostar]

The alternative is that they had a perfectly good livery and the MDTR just can't help messing with something that is established and works for no apparent reason.

I think your right about this. I think they’ve missed a trick with retaining the old livery because that now means that any formation with the ‘normal’ liveried mk3s will look strange.

 

[whhistle]

I wonder if they'll re-do all the trains in this style if they win the next franchise.
Not sure what I think about the fading effect, but it's better than the current.
The only thing I'd change would be the logo. Looks like it's almost randomly placed, not in the middle length wise nor height.

 

[Domh245]

I'd expect they would. Stagecoach seem to be going for a slightly more busy livery, see the repainted SWT 158s (those done befote SWR) as an example, gone is the simple 4 colour palette, in is complex swirls and fading gradients

 

[DarloRich]

I'm still a bit amazed that removing the buffers and reinstating the fairing wasn't a budgeted for item in the Class 91 introduction programme.

it might well have been but it is an easy cut to make to keep the budget under control.

 

[43096]

I'd expect they would. Stagecoach seem to be going for a slightly more busy livery, see the repainted SWT 158s (those done befote SWR) as an example, gone is the simple 4 colour palette, in is complex swirls and fading gradients

A theory that breaks down with the EMT 158s currently going through for C6 overhaul, repaint and PRM work - the livery is the same as applied before.

 

[cactustwirly]

I was wondering the same, I assumed they were ex GC, hence my question on the interiors, but looking closer, the paint looks a lot older than the power car paint.

It's a normal EMT HST set, with 467 at the front, instead of a /0 powercar.

 

[mushroomchow]

That looks sexy.

Only minor criticism is that it doesn't "connect" to the mk. 3 stock livery-wise. Not a major issue, hopefully we see a rake in a similarly revised livery?

Oh, and as an aside, and not necessarily related - there's been a line of ex. FGW Mk. 3s sat at Leicester Depot for a while now - what's happening with those?

 

[goblinuser]

Love that shade of blue, looks very clean

 

[mushroomchow]

Was yesterday's run a one-off test, or is it in squadron service? I'm keen to cop it this weekend if I get a chance.

 

[Kneedown]

Was yesterday's run a one-off test, or is it in squadron service? I'm keen to cop it this weekend if I get a chance.

It was a one off. I don't believe there are plans to to run them in regular service until April/May time.