Forms of Compensation to Land Owners in Victorian Times

[The exile]

Interesting that they named them after someone living. I work in street naming and numbering and we no longer permit buildings or roads to be named after living people. Local councillors can overrule us, though, on this.

I suppose it could have been argued (had anyone worried about it then) that the naming wasn’t specifically linked to the 1st Earl - any more than the various streets with female first names are directly linked to the various developers’ daughters who inspired their naming.
There must be hundreds of street names which are a nod (or more) to the original landowner.
As a late “addendum” I mean ones which were named while said landowner was still very much alive.

 

[Haywain]

There must be hundreds of street names which are a nod (or more) to the original landowner.

Not just street names but also district and town names (Canning Town, Saltaire).

 

[Rescars]

Not just street names but also district and town names (Canning Town, Saltaire).

There are quite of a lot of streets named after former chief engineers - and a few (mainly cul-de-sacs!) named after Beeching.

 

[snowball]

Interesting that they named them after someone living. I work in street naming and numbering and we no longer permit buildings or roads to be named after living people. Local councillors can overrule us, though, on this.

Where my aunt and uncle used to live, the nearby streets were named after the sons of the head of the company that built all the houses.

 

[Haywain]

There are quite of a lot of streets named after former chief engineers - and a few (mainly cul-de-sacs!) named after Beeching.

What I was getting at was that places can be named after people, even while they are still living. And there are actually thousands of places in England, and probably elsewhere, that are named after people although in many cases their actual identity is lost in the mists of time.

 

[infobleep]

I suppose it could have been argued (had anyone worried about it then) that the naming wasn’t specifically linked to the 1st Earl - any more than the various streets with female first names are directly linked to the various developers’ daughters who inspired their naming.
There must be hundreds of street names which are a nod (or more) to the original landowner.
As a late “addendum” I mean ones which were named while said landowner was still very much alive.

Not just street names but also district and town names (Canning Town, Saltaire).

What I was getting at was that places can be named after people, even while they are still living. And there are actually thousands of places in England, and probably elsewhere, that are named after people although in many cases their actual identity is lost in the mists of time.

This is all correct.

However, we don't allow it now due to a certain TV presenter called Jimmy Savile.

I can see though how if you give us some land we will name a road after you would work in the past when such things weren't considered such an issue.

 

[The exile]

This is all correct.

However, we don't allow it now due to a certain TV presenter called Jimmy Savile.

I can see though how if you give us some land we will name a road after you would work in the past when such things weren't considered such an issue.

Suspect it was often more a case of “I’m developing this land so I’ll call it what I like”.
As to the Saville issue - my council apparently has no issues about naming streets after people with similar proclivities - as long as they were Roman Emperors.

 

[infobleep]

Suspect it was often more a case of “I’m developing this land so I’ll call it what I like”.
As to the Saville issue - my council apparently has no issues about naming streets after people with similar proclivities - as long as they were Roman Emperors.

Well the oldest Street Naming and Numbeeing act in use in England & Wales dates from 1847 and some of the railway lines and stations pre-date that year. Of the local authorities that use the 1847 act, they combine it with later ones, which being later didn't exist in the 1840s to at least the 1860s. So it was very different back then to now.

 

[Pigeon]

AIUI he was especially concerned about one particular subsection of the land which the originally-proposed course of the railway went very close to, on an alignment more similar to the current one or possibly even gentler.

Expansion: it actually went right the other side of Stapleford Hall from the present alignment. It left that alignment somewhere half way ish between Melton Mowbray and Saxby, and rejoined about where Whissendine station was. So it cut off the whole of that corner completely. Half way along it tunnelled under "Cuckoo Hill" or "Cuckoo Plantation" until it fell in, whereupon he did his nut and tried to prosecute them for the 60 trees that went down the hole. Apparently there are still traces of the works visible on the ground, on the lines of bits of brickwork and so on, but there seems to have been nothing left by the time the Ordnance Survey came along that they thought worth noticing.