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Forty Years Ago (Part 2)

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Long, long ago, back in 1981, I had been a full time employee of British Rail for 6 or 7 months, a booking office clerk at Oakleigh Park station. That was a two-shifted job, early and late, but I was soon moved to Hadley Wood which was early shift only. I lived in Harringay, and commuted on class 313s. The benefits of railway employment included a limited number of free passes each year, and also the ability to buy season tickets at quarter rate. I knew somebody who commuted from Peterborough to Kings Cross every day, but he held a season ticket from March. It was exactly the same price as from Peterborough, but with the added bonus of validity out of Liverpool Street. I decided to copy him, so I bought a one month priv season ticket from Kings Cross to March, and – combined with a fairly liberal use of free passes – set about clocking up some haulage from my favourite classes of loco, namely 40s and Deltics, with a side helping of 37s. Here’s how I got on – required locos are underlined

Friday 06/03/81

37099
1636 Liverpool St – Ely
37092 1810 Ely – Liverpool St

I picked up the season ticket after work and made immediate use of it out of Liverpool Street with a required 37 out to Ely for another one straight back. A nice start. I made no moves over the weekend, and worked early shift on the Monday before turning up at Kings Cross to cover the evening departures:

Monday 09/03/81

55017 1805 Kings Cross – Peterborough
55013 2051 Peterborough – Grantham
55002 2119 Grantham – Kings Cross

A nice Deltic evening out. Despite its later celebrity status, 55002 was always a bit elusive to me, and I still haven’t cleared it for 1000 miles. There’s still a chance I suppose.

Tuesday 10/03/81 – Wednesday 11/03/81

Most of us have favourite locos in a class. The reasons why a particular loco becomes a favourite are many and varied. In my case 55019 was my pet Deltic after a stunning high speed run from Darlington to York on the Up Aberdonian, with speeds which were almost off the clock. My pet 40 was 40069, a York boilered loco which was instantly recognisable by the savage butchering of the lower bodyside to install an additional oil drain pipe. It was always a good strong performer – a cut above the average. Earlier in the day I had witnessed 40069 work the Kings Cross – Cleethorpes and return, a class 47 diagram that occasionally produced a Deltic, but was rare for a 40. Remarkably it stuck to diagram and was allocated to 1S60 2000 Kings Cross – Aberdeen.

40069 2000 Kings Cross – Newcastle

The train was 6 minutes late start, waiting the loco from Finsbury Park after fuelling, dropped to 20’ late from York due to station overtime, then regained time to 14’ late into Newcastle. A cracking run with my machine, load 12, via Selby (of course).

At Newcastle the 1925 Aberdeen – Kings Cross was waiting to depart from the opposite side of the island platform as we pulled in, with my machine 55019 on the front. I was in Newcastle for less than a minute that night, before heading south back to Kings Cross, a memorable one-for-one move.

55019 0115 Newcastle – Kings Cross. … and straight into work!

Friday 13/03/81

There used to be departures from Kings Cross overnight to Leeds conveying seats, sleepers, post, and newspapers. They ran at 2300, 0110 and 0405. The 2300 divided at Doncaster, one portion to Leeds and Bradford Exchange and the other portion to Wakefield Kirkgate and Halifax. The idea of a through sleeper from London to Halifax seems rather quaint now, doesn’t it?

55019 2300 Kings Cross – Doncaster

Saturday 14/03/81

55008 0152 Doncaster – Kings Cross. Another fine overnight… and back to work.

On Saturdays the 2300 to Bradford was retimed to depart at 2315, and – in common with all other ECML overnight services – was subjected to all manner of weird and wonderful diversions which varied from week to week. I knew I had to be at work on Sunday afternoon, so I wasn’t planning on going very far. All that changed when 40069 dropped on the front of the 2315 departure!

40069 2315 Kings Cross – Leeds, via Peterborough, Sleaford avoider, Joint Lines, Doncaster, Hare Park, Wakefield Kirkgate, Wakefield Westgate.

An arrival at Leeds just before dawn was not a position of strength on a Sunday morning. I recall I took up residence in a DMU stabled with the heaters on full blast, and got some doss.

Sunday 15/03/81

I simply had to get back south in time for work, so my options were limited.

47487 0900 Leeds – Wakefield Westgate
43111 + 43091 1001 Wakefield Westgate – Kings Cross and so to work.

Monday 16/03/81

The most common overnight train to produce a 40 out of Kings Cross was 1S66 2015 to Edinburgh. This was a postal train conveying passenger accommodation, so there were lengthy station stops for post bags to be loaded and unloaded, and the train was slackly timed, although with 10 vehicles it was enough to make a 40 need to be worked flat out. Another overnight beckoned:

40068 2015 Kings Cross – York

Tuesday 17/03/81

55002 0105 York – Kings Cross. This was the balancing working of the 2015 northbound, but obviously with a Deltic on the front it was a much easier run. On arrival at Kings Cross there wasn’t time to go home to Harringay for a wash and brush up before going straight to work on early shift, so I decided on a quick fill-in move. I dossed in the stock of the 0550 Kings Cross – Aberdeen which I planned to do to Stevenage to pick up the 2035 Aberdeen – Kings Cross, which was a “set down only” stop there. As a morning fill in it had the attraction of keeping me warm, and covering two more locos.

A fine plan, slightly flawed in the execution. Firstly, the hoped-for Deltic on the 0550 Aberdeen turned out to be 47403. Then promptly at 0524, off we set. Que? I soon discovered that the stock I had been dossing in was not the 0550 Aberdeen but the 0524 ECS to Peterborough to form a Peterborough – Kings Cross commuter. Not a position of strength. On arrival at Peterborough I made a brief phone call to apologise for my delayed arrival at work, then had dud 31242 all the way back to Kings Cross.

47403 05+24 Kings Cross – Peterborough
31242 0750 Peterborough – Kings Cross

Thursday 19/03/81

There were a couple of boilered 40s on Finsbury Park, so I headed into Kings Cross to cover the 2015 Edinburgh. To my surprise this produced 55008, so I took this for a run to Peterborough, knowing that my machine 55019 was on the last Up York.

55008 2015 Kings Cross – Peterborough
55019 2149 Peterborough – Kings Cross

I hung around at Kings Cross to see if a 40 would work. By that time of night the options were the 2300 Bradford/Halifax, 2315 Aberdeen, and 0002 Newcastle. At last …

Friday 20/03/81

40085 0002 Kings Cross – Doncaster

Returning from Doncaster, the 2035 Aberdeen – Kings Cross was a good option, as (like the 2315 northbound) it was timed at a maximum speed of 75 mph, and therefore within the capabilities of a class 40. Not today however …

46016 0419 Doncaster – Kings Cross. Not my favourite type of traction. Back to work.

Saturday 21/03/81

I decided to make use of my free passes and escape from the ECML for a few days. I had a few days leave, combined with some rest days, so I set off to the West Country.

50026 0002 Paddington – Plymouth via Bristol Parkway.
50021 04xx pilot Newton Abbot – Plymouth
50006 0600 Plymouth – Birmingham New St via Weston super Mare

At Birmingham I got some gen, and decided to head north to do “The Bangor”.

83009 1120 Birmingham New Street – Crewe (I do like a good roarer)
47439 1229 Crewe – Chester
40034 1314 Chester – Manchester Victoria
40034 1540 Manchester Victoria – Warrington BQ

At Manchester Victoria I learned that 40113 had worked a Hull to Morecambe ADEX, and was allocated back this evening. Whilst 40113 was quite a common loco, the track was unusual, so I decided to abandon the Bangor diagram at Warrington and head to Morecambe to join the ADEX.

85001 1627 Warrington BQ – Preston
47546 1705 Preston – Lancaster
DMU Lancaster – Morecambe
40113 1758 Morecambe – Hull, via Carnforth, Skipton, Engine Shed Jn., Normanton, Calder Bridge, Skellow, Stainforth, Goole. I cleared 40113 for 1000 miles on this trip.
DMU Hull - Doncaster

Sunday 22/03/81

Doncaster station used to have an all-night Travellers Fare buffet, which was a welcome haven from the cold in the wee small hours. I headed south on the 2045 Edinburgh – Kings Cross, which I noted was “Ages late, as usual.”

55011 0218 Doncaster – Kings Cross via Joint Lines

I made my way across to Waterloo, with the intention of heading for Plymouth to visit my parents. The 0910 Waterloo – Exeter was my target, but the allocated class 50 had a fit of the sulks and refused to play nicely, so a 33 was produced instead.

33005 0910 Waterloo – Woking.
50003 0943 Woking – Waterloo
50032 1110 Waterloo – Exeter St Davids

I needed the 33, so I took it to Woking as a fill-in move, then covered the 1110 to Exeter which produced 50032. This was delayed at Salisbury awaiting a driver. We set off 15 minutes late from Salisbury, and ran like the wind, arriving at Exeter St Davids 2 minutes early.

50009 1437 Exeter St Davids – Plymouth.

On arrival at Plymouth I found my parents had gone to visit my sister in Looe, so I caught the next service to Liskeard, where they picked me up by car.

43141+43142 1609 Plymouth – Liskeard.

Monday 23/03/81

After a day with my parents, I set off on a long journey north – using one of my free passes to its full extent.

50014 1600 Plymouth – Paddington, 9 minutes early into Paddington.
86008 2150 Euston – Mossend

Tuesday 24/03/81

The Inverness / Fort William sleeper divided at Mossend. The splitting and joining location of the Fort William portion has been a moveable feast over the years. At this time it was one diesel loco from Mossend to Cowlairs (reverse), for a second one to drop on the rear and take it down the hill into Queen Street (reverse), where the day seating coaches were attached by a third loco to take the train through to Fort William (reverse), and another loco then worked from Fort William to Mallaig with the day coaches only. The locos from Mossend to Cowlairs and Cowlairs to Queen Street could be absolutely any available diesel, especially in summer when heating wasn't an issue.

47462 0422 Mossend – Cowlairs via Gartcosh, Springburn
27112 0444 Cowlairs – Glasgow Queen Street
37114 0600 Glasgow Queen Street – Fort William
37014 1024 Fort William – Mallaig

The West Highland Line in winter is a wonderful sight – especially with a required steam-heat 37 on the front. 37114 did the honours to Fort William, where 37014 – also required – dropped onto the other end.

After some time to enjoy the delights of Mallaig on a midweek day in March (no, me neither) it was time to return south. This time it was 37114 throughout to Glasgow.

37114 1603 Mallaig – Glasgow Queen Street.

Rather than sticking with this and continuing south, I decided to head across to Edinburgh, in the hope of some more 40 or Deltic action on the ECML.

47704 2300 Glasgow Queen Street – Edinburgh

Wednesday 25/03/81

Arriving so late in Edinburgh there was only one southbound ECML overnight I could cover, the 2035 from Aberdeen. As noted previously, being timed at 75 mph this was a good bet for a class 40. Or some other junk …

46004 0008 Edinburgh – Newcastle

Here things began to take a turn for the better:

55010 0341 Newcastle – Edinburgh

En route south behind 46004 I had passed 40101 on the 2000 Kings Cross – Aberdeen, which had worked from Kings Cross through to Edinburgh. On arrival at Edinburgh this loco was dispatched to Haymarket for fuel and water, and promptly turned out to re-engine the 2315 Kings Cross – Aberdeen.

40101 0702 Edinburgh – Aberdeen

At Aberdeen word reached me that a Deltic was on its way up from Edinburgh. I’d never had a Deltic out of Aberdeen before, so I hung about to see what happened. Sure enough:

55012 1240 Aberdeen – Dundee

I was feeling very pleased with myself until just north of Dundee the 0550 Kings Cross – Aberdeen roared by with my machine 55019 on the front. Some hurried consultation of the timetable had me taking a gamble. 55019 would return south on the 1630 from Aberdeen. The next northbound service was the 1335 from Glasgow Queen Street, scheduled to arrive Aberdeen at 1630. It is perfectly possible to have parallel arrivals and departures at Aberdeen – dependent on which platform was used for the departing service. I abandoned 55012 at Dundee and headed north. I was willing to take whatever loco appeared on the train from Glasgow, so it was a distinct bonus when 40113 (last seen at Hull on the ADEX from Morecambe) turned up.

40113 1506 Dundee – Aberdeen

Not my lucky day. We arrived outside Aberdeen station at a red signal, and were held there until the 1630 had departed southbound, with 55019 blasting past my despairing face at touching distance. To save shunting they had run the loco round on the through platform and departed the train from there instead of shunting it to one of the bay platforms as booked. Oh well. I never did get 55019 out of Aberdeen. At least I’ve got a decent fall-back move:

40113 1750 Aberdeen – Dundee
40148 1949 Dundee – Edinburgh

40148’s train was the 1820 Aberdeen – Edinburgh. It made the scheduled unadvertised stop at Burntisland. Once there was a Control office at Burntisland, and when that was amalgamated with Edinburgh Control, one of the arrangements for the displaced Control office staff was that the 1820 Aberdeen – Edinburgh would stop additionally at Burntisland to uplift Control Office staff on their way to a night shift in Edinburgh. The train stopped at Burntisland for years with the only person boarding the train being one of the local cranks.

At Edinburgh I viewed the locos working south on the ECML overnights and gave up that idea as a bad job. Instead I collapsed exhausted onto the Bristol overnight.

47517 2340 Edinburgh – Carstairs

Thursday 26/03/81

8xxxx 0041 Carstairs – Birmingham New Street
45130 0700 Birmingham New Street – Bristol Temple Meads

I was so exhausted I couldn’t summon up the energy to identify the electric which I had from Carstairs. It really was time to go home and have a rest – oh, and go back to work to earn some more money for my next trips.

50028 0813 Bristol Temple Meads – Birmingham New Street
87006 1318 Birmingham New Street – Euston

I couldn’t resist another trip to Peterborough:

40173 2015 Kings Cross – Peterborough
55002 2149 Peterborough – Kings Cros


Monday 30/03/81

After a few days of relative sanity – no trains – the madness encroached again.

40077 0002 Kings Cross – Doncaster
47412 0419 Doncaster – Kings Cross

Then after an early shift at work, I paid a visit to a friend in Audley End, then improvised a bash.

31191 1636 Liverpool St – Audley End
37011 1757 Audley End - Cambridge
37084 1832 Cambridge – Liverpool St


Tuesday31/03/81

The previous Cambridge line trip had been pretty effective at scooping up new locos, so I decided on an overnight to try for a few more.

31126 2314 Liverpool St – Cambridge

Wednesday 01/04/81

April Fool’s Day – I should have known better. I had a good plan – do the 0155 Cambridge – Kings Lynn to Ely, changing there into the 2300 Liverpool St – Peterborough via Ipswich (a fine obscure train). Things started off well – the 0155 Cambridge – Kings Lynn was 37044 on a single BSK – the highest power-to-weight ration I’ve encountered in the UK. I never found out what was on the connection from Ely to Peterborough, since I woke up just as we left Ely! Not a position of strength. On arrival at Kings Lynn I blundered bleary-eyed onto the platform and wondered what on earth I should do next. A railman was there to oversee the unloading of the newspapers (which was why the train ran in the first place). He invited me to get my head down in his (coal-fired!) cabin, which I did gladly. After he’d finished unloading he returned to the cabin with glad tidings. “That engine as brung your train in, e’s going back t’Cambridge. I’ve had a word with the guard, and as long as the driver don’t object, you can travel in the back cab to Cambridge.”


37044 0155 Cambridge – Kings Lynn
37044 0410 Kings Lynn – Cambridge (light engine)

From Cambridge I took the first available train to Liverpool Street, as I was due to attend a course at Ilford that morning.

47160 0653 Cambridge – Liverpool St

Thursday 02/04/81

The last day of my season ticket to March – and I realised I’d never been to March all month. Time to remedy that.

37110 1656 Liverpool St – Cambridge
DMU Cambridge – March
31229 1952 March – Peterborough
55014 2149 Peterborough – Kings Cross

The run with 37110 to Cambridge was a real catalogue of horrors, with an emergency stop due to an open door, and a prolonged halt due to an EMU failure at Bishop Stortford. We arrived at Cambridge 65 minutes late, so my only connection forward to March was a DMU.

55014 provided an excellent end to the month, departing Peterborough 4 minutes late and arriving at Kings Cross 2 minutes early, with speeds up to 112 mph en route.

I never bought another priv season ticket to March – it was just too exhausting! Even so, I managed to cram a huge amount into those 4 weeks.
 
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Yep another one of those threads where you (briefly) wish you were ten years older...
 

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Wonderful stuff, I was exhausted by the end, just like you would have been at various stages in that month when time spent travelling must have exceeded time spent working.
 

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Yes, it was quite tiring. None of the overnights involved sleepers - it was all dossing in 2nd class stock, compartments if you were lucky.
I took a "policy decision" to behave a bit more responsibly as regards my work in future, as turning up late to work without the chance of a shower after several consecutive overnights was not deemed to be career-enhancing.
I still remember the headcodes and departure times of the ECML overnight services, even 40 years later. There were still post and newspapers being carried then, meaning trains also ran on Saturday nights. The variety of diversions was superb. The same could be said for the WCML, at least between Rugby and Preston, where many different routes were used - often involving diesel haulage with a dead electric.
 

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Fantastic stuff. Really do love reading these moves. The 80s were great for haulage. I’ve got to commend you on your frequent overnights!. I did 2 on the trot once and was in oblivion!.
 

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Fantastic stuff. Really do love reading these moves. The 80s were great for haulage. I’ve got to commend you on your frequent overnights!. I did 2 on the trot once and was in oblivion!.
Seven overnights in a row was our standard approach to a Freedom of Scotland. Trying to doss on a double seat if you were lucky, one side of a compo if you were very lucky.
 

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Seven overnights in a row was our standard approach to a Freedom of Scotland. Trying to doss on a double seat if you were lucky, one side of a compo if you were very lucky.
The Scottish Rovers were a bit limited in their scope for overnights - it was either a leap to Blair Atholl where the Highland Line overnights crossed or a round trip to Carlisle.
For the really adventurous the 0105 Perth - Aberdeen was an option.
 

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The Scottish Rovers were a bit limited in their scope for overnights - it was either a leap to Blair Atholl where the Highland Line overnights crossed or a round trip to Carlisle.
For the really adventurous the 0105 Perth - Aberdeen was an option.
Getting out of a red hot aircon onto a freezing cold platform in the early hours was a real shock to the system.

We must have been mad.
 

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Getting out of a red hot aircon onto a freezing cold platform in the early hours was a real shock to the system.

We must have been mad.
Oh quite definitely clinically insane!
I only ventured to Blair Atholl overnight once. There was still too much on the ECML or WCML at that time to keep me entertained.
I recall the booking on point / telegraph office at Carlisle station had a blackboard in the window, and the clerk in the office would keep it updated with the progress of all trains due at Carlisle. That was also a good way of finding out what reliefs were running, or if you could make a massive minus connection into a late runner.
 

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I recall the booking on point / telegraph office at Carlisle station had a blackboard in the window, and the clerk in the office would keep it updated with the progress of all trains due at Carlisle.

Yes I remember that - a sort of "Real Time Trains" of its time!
 

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I can't remember what overnights I did on my Freedom of Scotland (only did the one), but I certainly didn't stay anywhere, so must have done a few. I have recollections of being on Perth in the middle of the night.
 

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in addition to the Inverness - Euston and Perth - Euston overnights, there were Aberdeen - Kings Cross and Edinburgh - Kings Cross, plus the internal overnight with portions from Glasgow and Edinburgh uniting at Perth (and connecting there into the 0105 to Aberdeen). A less-used option was 2200 Glasgow Central - Stranraer / 0730 return. The 2050 Euston - Stranraer also connected into the 0730 Stranraer - Glasgow, so a triangular Glasgow - Carlisle - Stranraer - Glasgow trip was possible.
In the height of summer there was a Fridays Only 1805 Blackpool - Stranraer / 0120 Saturdays Only Stranraer - Blackpool, which had the combined delights of class 40 traction Carlisle - Stranraer and return, compartment stock, and it was a job worked by guards who were more at home on coal trains (i.e. they weren't competent on checking tickets). By the early 1980s it was booked a class 47, and eventually the timings were altered so it became a FO Glasgow - Stranraer, 0120 SO Stranraer - Blackpool, SO Blackpool - Stranraer, SO Stranraer - Glasgow working. The train ran primarily to take families from Ulster to Butlins at Blackpool for their summer holidays.
 

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I did the overnight move to Stranraer once. The reason being that it was piloted by a 20 from Ayr. As a bonus it also piloted the Glasgow back as far as Ayr in the morning to get it back to the depot.

Stranraer is one of those places where I have travelled a long way to get there but never left the station.
 

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I did the overnight move to Stranraer once. The reason being that it was piloted by a 20 from Ayr. As a bonus it also piloted the Glasgow back as far as Ayr in the morning to get it back to the depot.

Stranraer is one of those places where I have travelled a long way to get there but never left the station.
"Ah yes, I remember it well."
Piloting of the Euston - Stranraer from Newton-on-Ayr was instituted after an infamous incident where the class 47 on the sleepers slipped to a stand somewhere out in the wilderness near Pinwherry, and it took several hours for the alarm to be raised and and assisting loco procured. A vocal Ulster MP was on the train, and (I believe) raised the matter in Parliament. An edict came out that the train was henceforth to be piloted every night. Of course this added massively to the cost of running the train, and helped ensure its ultimate withdrawal.
It often - but not always - was a class 20, and likewise often - but not always - piloted the 0730 Stranraer - Glasgow back as far as Ayr.

Believe me you haven't missed a lot by not leaving the station at Stranraer. Even more so since the ferries transferred to Cairnryan.
 

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These are the moves of January 1981, forty years ago. At the time I lived in Harringay, and worked as a booking office clerk. After years of impoverishment first as a 6th former then as a student, to have a regular wage coming in was a bit of a novelty for me. The supply of free passes for railway staff, and the reluctance of some staff to ever clip them, gave me extra latitude on my journeys about the system.

Friday 02/01/81

55015 1705 Kings Cross – Retford
55019 1905 Retford – Kings Cross

The last loco-hauled Hull Executive had a good turnout of bashers – over 100 in total. Some took 55015 through to Doncaster or Hull, but for me the attraction of my machine 55019 back from Retford was irresistible.

Saturday 03/01/81

55015 1235 Kings Cross – York
55022 1813 York – Doncaster
55007 1907 Doncaster – Hull
55007 2100 Hull – Doncaster
55014 2235 Doncaster – York
40058 2326 York – Edinburgh

My plan for the day was to go to Kings Cross to cover the 1035 additional to Edinburgh, which was a good bet for a 40. Due to a total farce on the Underground services I arrived at Kings Cross at 1037, so just missed 40070 which worked right through to Edinburgh.

The next additional was due out at 1235, so I festered. 1235 came and went, with no sign of a loco. Eventually 55015 put in an appearance, running on one engine only. We departed 40 minutes late, and had dropped to an hour late by York, where I alighted.

The next southbound service of any note was 55022 on the 1813 to Kings Cross. A plot emerged. Last night had been the formal end of the Hull Executive, but the train also ran on Saturdays, unnamed, and furthermore the loco returned from Hull to Doncaster on a local service. So I got off at Doncaster for 55007 into Hull, and back out on load 2 on the 2100 Hull – Doncaster. (A Deltic on 2 Mk 1 coaches is quite an experience).

Back at Doncaster, the gen was that there were no 40s working out of Kings Cross tonight, and that apart from 55014 everything else was allocated a 46 or 47. So I took 55014 on the 2000 Kings Cross – Aberdeen. I was a bit surprised as it was only load 6, and there were no sleeping cars. All became clear on arrival at York, where somebody who knew me asked why I was on this Deltic-hauled train instead of the class 40 right behind it?! It turned out that the 2004 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Relief conveyed all of the stock usually sent on the 2000, and the 2000 was a comparatively light load of seating coaches only. Obviously the controller at Kings Cross didn’t realise this, as he allocated the Deltic to load 6 on the 2000 and 40058 on load 13 on the 2004. I had been the victim of dud gen. Unusually for a Saturday night there were no diversions in place, so the 40 managed the schedule and deposited me in Edinburgh in time for breakfast.

Sunday 04/01/81

47706 0803 Edinburgh – Carstairs
85029 0943 Carstairs – Carlisle
40032 1243 Carlisle – Preston
85014 1530 Preston – Crewe
86261 1653 Crewe – Stafford
85037 1731 Stafford – Birmingham New Street
33007 1922 Birmingham New Street – Reading
31121 + 31117 2212 Reading – Paddington

Word reached me that 40032 was allocated to work the 1055 Glasgow Central – Euston relief forward from Carlisle via the S&C. I took 47706 to Carstairs, where there was no electric waiting to take over. 47706 ran round and recoupled to the stock, and we sat there waiting patiently for 40 minutes until 85029 arrived light engine from Motherwell, and took over.

At Carlisle there was time for some refreshment before the 1055 Glasgow – Euston relief arrived, and 40032 coupled onto the front of 10 Mk 1s. The 40 was not in the best of health, as was demonstrated after a window-hanging session on the S&C when I looked in a mirror to find that my face was speckled with loco oil. It wasn’t fast, but it was very entertaining.

From Preston I had electrics to Stafford where I picked up the 1627 Manchester – Birmingham which was extended to Swansea. The plan was to take that through to Bristol Parkway – regardless of the motive power – to pick up the Bristol – Glasgow sleepers. That was specially diagrammed for a class 50 tonight, in order to get one to Saltley for driver training. However I learned that there was no 50 available at Bristol to work the train, so that plan was abandoned. Fortunately a novel method of escape presented itself in the shape of 33007 on load 12 on the Newcastle – Poole service. We set off 20’ late and dropped to 45’ late by Reading, with the 33 being flogged pretty hard all the way.

As if that wasn’t enough jam for one day, the 1826 Manchester – Paddington right behind was 31117 + 31121, so I had those from Reading to Paddington to round off a fine weekend.

After all that excitement I spent a full week at work with no bashing….

Saturday 10/01/81

40069 1955 Kings Cross – York
55019 2323 York – Newcastle

40069 was working a Yorkshire General Assurance return charter. I couldn’t let my class 40 machine leave without me, so I negotiated passage on the train to York. I didn’t have long to wait there before my Deltic machine 55019 arrived on the 2000 Kings Cross – Aberdeen, which I took forward to Newcastle.

Sunday 11/01/81

55017 0142 Newcastle – Kings Cross
86103 0855 Euston – Crewe
86311 1125 Crewe – Preston
47480 1423 Preston – Liverpool
47029 1550 Liverpool – Crewe
86261 16xx Crewe – Stafford
86208 1731 Stafford – Birmingham New Street
47xxx 18xx Birmingham New Street – Nuneaton
85001 19xx Nuneaton – Euston

The day started well with 55017 on the 2005 Aberdeen – Kings Cross. I got a compartment to myself in a toasty-warm BSK right at the very front of the train. We ran via Stockton, then took the York avoider to Holgate and were hauled back into York station by an unidentified 47, then continued south via Selby to Doncaster then via the Joint Lines to Peterborough, and on to Kings Cross.

A quick trot along the Euston Road got me to Euston in time for the 0855 to Holyhead, which was a reasonable bet for a Roarer to Crewe and a 40 forward to Holyhead. I have a soft spot for the 86/1 subclass, so I wasn’t disappointed in the lack of a Roarer, but the Crewe ETH 47/4 waiting to take over at Crewe was not my idea of fun.

My notes record the trip with 86311 as “Retimed, late, and horrendously delayed”. The idea of going to Preston was to sniff out any class 40 action there, but I drew another blank. It was just one of those days. However there was something really exceptional on offer. The 1423 Preston to Liverpool was scheduled to be diverted via St Helens Shaw Street (now Central) then via Sutton Oak Jn, Clock Face, Widnes No 1, Widnes No 7 to Ditton. That route has long since been erased from the network, and this was the only occasion I travelled on it – just a shame it was with a 47/4 instead of a 40.

From Liverpool it was all about trying to cover anything decent, and failing at every turn. I even managed to forget the number of the 47 which dragged us from Birmingham to Nuneaton. 85001 from Nuneaton to Euston was a reasonable end to the day.

Tuesday 13/01/81

55019 1712 Kings Cross – Peterborough
55014 1854 Peterborough – Kings Cross

There were still several loco-hauled Kings Cross – Peterborough services at this time, which were mostly in the hands of 46s, 47s, and the occasional 31. The appearance of my pet 55019 on the 1712 provoked me into an evening trip to Peterborough, returning with 55014 on the 1630 from Hull, a regular Deltic diagram.

Sunday 18/01/81

My girlfriend wanted a day out, so I suggested an afternoon trip to Cambridge:

37035 1236 Liverpool Street – Cambridge
37051 1720 Cambridge – Liverpool Street

Monday 19/01/81

Normally when a Haymarket-allocated class 40 turned up at Kings Cross, it would be returned north on a passenger or parcels service back to Scotland. The 2315 Kings Cross – Aberdeen was a good bet, as it was timed for a maximum speed of 75 mph, and therefore within the capabilities of a class 40. For some reason tonight they rang the changes.

40103 2300 Kings Cross – Doncaster

This was the service to Halifax and Bradford via Leeds, dividing at Doncaster. I alighted at Doncaster to view the various southbound services, with nothing of interest presenting itself.
My last chance would be the 1935 Aberdeen – Kings Cross …

Tuesday 20/01/81

47527 0419 Doncaster – Kings Cross.

Oh well, can’t win them all.

Wednesday 21/01/81

40068 2015 Kings Cross – York

This time I was able to travel as far as York to view the southbound services with nothing of interest presenting itself. Déjà vu.
My last chance would be the 1935 Aberdeen – Kings Cross …

Thursday 22/01/81

47414 0341 York – Kings Cross

That concluded my bashing for the month of January, 40 years ago.
 

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January 81, I hadn't progressed beyond spotting from the end of the platform.
 

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I was mainly still spotting, but had started to put my toe in the bashing waters.
 

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40 Years Ago – February 1981

As a new entrant to the railways, I was supposed to have gone on a course for booking office clerks before I was appointed to a station. Such was the shortage of staff that I had to wait for several months before I could be spared for the course. If I recall correctly it lasted for two weeks, in my case the last week of January and the first week of February. It covered all manner of booking office skills, such as double entry bookkeeping, and how to read a timetable. Despite having a pretty good head for figures, I struggled with the bookkeeping, but I’d been reading timetables and planning journeys for years, so I was able to help some of the other clerks on the course. It was based at Ilford, in what had previously been the lodging facility for traincrews, but which had been converted into a training centre. All manner of courses were run there, including driver training and signalling. I don’t remember the name of the place – it was a series of prefabs on the east side south of Ilford station.

One element of our course involved planning a day trip which was supposed to demonstrate your ability to construct a complicated timetable. I drew up a plan to go Kings Cross – Cleethorpes (hoping for Deltic haulage), DMU to New Holland, ferry to Hull, DMU to Doncaster, and back to Kings Cross. Of course I granted myself some latitude …

Tuesday 03/02/81

55015 0805 Kings Cross – Newark Northgate
47163 1000 Newark Northgate – Cleethorpes
DMU 1216 Cleethorpes – New Holland Pier
PMV Farringford 1315 New Holland Pier – Hull Corporation Pier
DMU 1434 Hull – Sheffield
47116 1623 Sheffield – Peterborough
55012 1936 Peterborough – Grantham
55017 1936 Grantham – Kings Cross

Clutching an “All Stations Eastern Region” bearer pass, I headed for Kings Cross. To my disappointment the 0815 Kings Cross – Cleethorpes was a 47 instead of the hoped-for Deltic. (From my vantage point in the booking office at Oakleigh Park I had seen Deltics on this train on several occasions – just never when I was in a position to do it). However the 0805 Kings Cross – York was 55015, so I took that to Newark to await required 47163 to take me through to Cleethorpes. I think the Cleethorpes train was booked to be Mk 2 air cons, but was often a steam heat Mk 1 rake, as it was today.

On arrival at Cleethorpes I only had a short wait for the DMU to New Holland Pier, for the 1315 sailing to Hull Corporation Pier. The ferry service and New Holland Pier station were scheduled for withdrawal / closure later that year upon the opening of the Humber Bridge, so this was to be my farewell trip. The Paddle Motor Vessel Farringford of 1947 vintage did the honours. More details here.

A swift walk to Hull Paragon station was followed by a Trans Pennine (?) DMU to Doncaster … except I decided to opt for Plan B. Instead of an HST from Doncaster to Kings Cross to get me back to London within my working day, I decided to go freelance. I stuck with the DMU through to Sheffield to pick up the Manchester – Harwich boat train, via Nottingham and Grantham. I took that to Peterborough with required 47116, and was tempted there by the sight of 55012 on the 1805 Kings Cross – York. That took me to Grantham for 55017 back through to Kings Cross and home.

At our debriefing in class the following day, I think I won the prize for most inventive itinerary. I don’t think any of the tutor’s previous pupils had ended up crossing the Humber in a paddle steamer!

Saturday 07/02/81

40058 2000 Kings Cross – Newcastle

After successfully completing my course, I celebrated with a long run with a 40 out of Kings Cross. 40058 was a familiar York-allocated loco, that was often to be found on the ECML. I had already cleared it for 1000 miles haulage. In this instance it was removed from the train at Newcastle, after struggling somewhat and losing time on load 15.

Sunday 08/02/81

55009 01xx Newcastle – Kings Cross

Once again I was able to board the 2005 Aberdeen – Kings Cross, and have an excellent doss in the hyper-warm BSK at the front of the train. We were diverted via Stockton, then main line (via Selby) to Doncaster, then via the Joint Lines to Peterborough.

Tuesday 17/02/81

40061 0002 Kings Cross – Doncaster
47458 04xx Doncaster – Kings Cross

After an evening out in London I returned home via Kings Cross, only to find low-mileage 40061 on the 0002 to Newcastle. Well it would be rude to refuse, so I took it as far as Doncaster to pick up the 1925 Aberdeen – Kings Cross from there. The very unlovely 47458 took me back to Kings Cross – and straight into work!

Saturday 21/02/81

40101 2315 Kings Cross – Doncaster

Once again a Haymarket boilered 40 is sent on the Bradford / Halifax service instead of one to Scotland. Ours not to reason why – I was simply grateful for the opportunity to rack up some more mileage. The route was via the Joint Lines and the Sleaford avoider. We arrived at Doncaster 20 minutes early – quite rare on the ECML, especially with a 40 on the front!

Sunday 22/02/81

55009 0338 Doncaster – Kings Cross

This was 40 minutes late, but I wasn’t troubled by that. Another trundle via the Joint Lines saw me safely back in Kings Cross, and home to bed.

That was the last of my bashing for the month. I’d had long runs with three different 40s out of Kings Cross, and four different Deltics for haulage, as well as picking up a couple of steam-heat 47s. Oh, and a paddle steamer too!
 

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40 Years Ago – February 1981

As a new entrant to the railways, I was supposed to have gone on a course for booking office clerks before I was appointed to a station. Such was the shortage of staff that I had to wait for several months before I could be spared for the course. If I recall correctly it lasted for two weeks, in my case the last week of January and the first week of February. It covered all manner of booking office skills, such as double entry bookkeeping, and how to read a timetable. ...

At our debriefing in class the following day, I think I won the prize for most inventive itinerary. I don’t think any of the tutor’s previous pupils had ended up crossing the Humber in a paddle steamer!
OT, because I never did the trip, but your post reminds me that a couple of years earlier, as a new telephone enquiry clerk, I was sent on a SR course somewhere near Broadstairs.
Having a wider timetable knowledge than most of the others there, I enjoyed the challenge of an itinerary from Hull to Ipswich: the "correct" (course leader's) route was via Doncaster and March, mine had just the one change at Peterborough and avoided the DMU.
Of course, I would have opted for the Joint Line myself - I did so a couple of years later with my fiance, just before March-Spalding closed.

PS for younger readers: CATE (Computer Assisted Train Enquiries) was introduced a couple of years later, after I had left - a good clerk was still quicker).
 

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OT, because I never did the trip, but your post reminds me that a couple of years earlier, as a new telephone enquiry clerk, I was sent on a SR course somewhere near Broadstairs.
Having a wider timetable knowledge than most of the others there, I enjoyed the challenge of an itinerary from Hull to Ipswich: the "correct" (course leader's) route was via Doncaster and March, mine had just the one change at Peterborough and avoided the DMU.
Of course, I would have opted for the Joint Line myself - I did so a couple of years later with my fiance, just before March-Spalding closed.

PS for younger readers: CATE (Computer Assisted Train Enquiries) was introduced a couple of years later, after I had left - a good clerk was still quicker).
Oh yes, I remember baffling the tutor by producing a cross-London itinerary involving a trip on the Woolwich Ferry. He had been trying to get us to plot a path via London Termini and the Underground, so my version of events involving the North London Line, Gospel Oak - Woolwich, ferry, and some desperate move on the Southern managed to beat his "right" answer by about 15 minutes!
 

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The next instalment ...

40 Years Ago – April 1981

I already described the first few days of April in my first post of this series, when I held a London to March monthly season. So I pick up the moves from the early hours of Sunday 05 April 1981 …

Sunday 05/04/81

86224 00:50 Euston – Crewe
47517 04:xx Crewe – Manchester Piccadilly
47182 09:15 (retimed from 09:11) Manchester Piccadilly – Birmingham New Street
47324 (+87009 dead) 11:45 Birmingham New Street – Wolverhampton
47485 12:37 Wolverhampton – Birmingham New Street
45147 13:35 Birmingham New Street – York
08525 Draw Back York to Holgate Jn
55016 17:22 York – Dunbar
46051 2053 Dunbar – Newcastle

After an evening out in London, an overnight on the “Splitter”, the 00:50 Euston to Liverpool and Manchester, which split at Stafford during the week, but because of engineering work this time it split at Crewe. The idea of going to Manchester was to cover whatever dragging might be on, in the hope of a class 40 being involved somewhere. No luck there. Dud steam-heat 47182 took me to Birmingham, where I picked up required 47324 to Wolverhampton, dragging an 87. The Birmingham area drags were turning out to be as dull as the Manchester area, so I resolved to get out of town in as interesting a manner as possible. 47485 returned me to New Street where required 45147 arrived on the 11:20 Swindon – Edinburgh (the Sunday dated equivalent of the weekdays Plymouth – Edinburgh). The interest here was not only the fact that the loco was required, but also the route taken, namely via Nuneaton Flyover (since closed, demolished, and replaced), Leicester, Derby (reverse) Trent Jn., Toton, Sheffield and Moorthorpe. This was the only occasion on which I travelled over the old flyover at Nuneaton.

On arrival at York there was a loco change as scheduled – or in this case two loco changes. 45147 was replaced at the head of the train by 55016, and meanwhile 08525 had attached to the rear. The direct route out of York station was blocked, so the 08 hauled us back to Holgate Junction, where the Deltic took as around the York avoiding line – another first for me.

I alighted at Dunbar in order to cover the 2025 Edinburgh – Kings Cross, which was still in the habit of producing a class 40 on occasions. Instead I was treated to the unlovely 46051. I had to take this to Newcastle, but alighted there for a midnight snack and in the hope of something better to take me back to London.

Monday 06/04/81

55017 00:56 Newcastle – Kings Cross

I was delighted when the next southbound overnight turned up behind a Deltic, so hopped on board and got my head down. Meanwhile, ahead of us the awful 46051 was gradually spluttering to a halt, failing in the middle of nowhere. That, combined with a points failure at Newark resulted in a 115’ late arrival at Kings Cross.

Friday 10/04/81

50029 18:03 Paddington – Oxford
DMU* 19:xx Oxford – Reading (relief)
50017 20:18 Reading – Paddington

* DMU 50786 + 59536 + 51492

The start of a couple of days on Class 50s. On arrival at Oxford behind 50029, I found that the 16:23 Manchester Piccadilly – Paddington was reported as running very late, due to problems north of Birmingham. There was an announcement that a relief train was running in its path from Birmingham. Excellent – what rateable power would that produce? The answer was a Cravens power twin DMU with a Met-Camm trailer inserted, to make a 3-car! How could I refuse it? We set off from Oxford with me sat in the front coach, peering through the front window. On these Cravens units everything vibrated like crazy. With the engines on full power, they set up some sort of resonant frequency which caused the seats, windows, luggage racks, ashtrays, inspection panels, and light fittings to shake like a wet dog about once every two seconds. We ran non-stop to Reading, even being turned onto the Up Fast at Didcot (as the normal train was booked to do), so rattling full power all the way. After that, the running of 50017 on the late Manchester – Paddington service seemed quite relaxed.

Saturday 11/04/81

50028 00:02 Paddington – Bristol Temple Meads
50037 03:35 Bristol Temple Meads – Paddington
50022 07:55 Paddington – Wolverhampton (additional)
50022 11:30 Wolverhampton – Paddington (additional)
50044 14:25 Paddington – Plymouth

Sunday 12/04/81

50011 16:45 Plymouth – Paddington

On arrival back at Paddington it was the Down Midnight to Bristol Temple Meads to return with the Up Midnight to Paddington, out via Parkway and return via Bath. These moves were to get me to Paddington to cover some relief services to Wolverhampton which were running because of engineering work at Rugby. 50022 duly produced on the 07:55 departure, so I did that throughout and back. Then I decided on a trip to Plymouth with 50044, for a visit to my parents. I returned the following day with 50011 on the 16:45 Plymouth to Paddington. There was booked engineering work on the Berks and Hants line, so this was scheduled to run via Bristol, but the work was either cancelled or given up early, so we ran via Westbury, and called additionally at Bedwyn, Hungerford and Newbury.

Saturday 18/04/81

45121 12:12 St Pancras – St Albans
DHMU return.

I’ve no clear memory of this journey, nor the reason for it. I suspect it was some form of social engagement.

Thursday 23/04/81

40078 20:15 Kings Cross - York

The Kings Cross Division was in a state of uproar for motive power. I was offered the choice of 31268 + 31174 on the 20:00 to Aberdeen, or 40078 on the 20:15 to Edinburgh. Having a strong affinity for 40s, I chose the latter. At Peterborough unusually we caught up with the 20:00 Aberdeen. It seems the speedo had failed on the 31s, so they were just in the process of replacing them with another pair of 31s, namely 31404 + 31261. To cap it all, we set off the Hot Box Detector near Newark, and incurred a 60 minute delay.

Friday 24/04/81

55008 01:05 York – Retford
31191 02:51 Retford – Doncaster
55009 04:19 Doncaster – Peterborough (diverted via Joint Lines)
40028 05:53 Peterborough – Kings Cross
A few hours sleep, then …
55010 20:15 Kings Cross – Newcastle

55008 was a good way to head south, but I had a feeling there might be another 40 coming north on the 00:02 Kings Cross – Newcastle, so I decided to alight at Retford and take my chances. Whilst waiting at Retford, in the still of the night I could hear a class 40 working hard. Sadly, it wasn’t my train, but rather the overnight Newcastle / Leeds to Kings Cross service which I had overtaken at Doncaste, where and some fitters crowded round 46047. Evidently the 46 had been declared a failure, since 40006 had replaced it, and this came absolutely hammering through Retford on the Up Fast trying to make up time. On my train, dud 31191 was not quite what I had in mind, so I baled out at Doncaster to cover some more southbound services.

At Doncaster I retired to the all-night buffet to nurse a cup of tea. Before long there came some ominous announcements about a line blockage north of Grantham, and delays to all ECML services. It later transpired that there had been some emergency engineering works taking place, so 55008’s train (from which I had alighted at Retford) needed to propel through the crossover at Claypole to access the Down line under single line working arrangements. Some bright spark forgot to clip and scotch the crossover, with the result that the Motorail vehicles on the rear of the train were derailed and landed on terra firma at an interesting angle, blocking both lines.

The last southbound overnight came in behind 55009, so I took that. Before long I became aware that we were on jointed track, and were being diverted via the Lincoln Avoider. Excellent! I got my head down for a few hours doss, waking up next at Peterborough as 40028 clonked onto the front, having replaced the Deltic. (Apparently 55009 had worked the 17:55 Edinburgh – Aberdeen then straight onto the 20:35 Aberdeen – Kings Cross without fuelling. The extra time and mileage of the diversion via the Joint Lines made it too tight for fuel, so we gained the trusty 40028 instead. Our eventiual arrival at Kings Cross was 100’ late. A couple of hours later I saw 40006 arrive in Kings Cross. It had been turned round north of the derailment at Claypole, returned to Doncaster, then followed us via Lincoln.

With at least two class 40s in the area, I had high hopes that the 20:15 to Edinburgh would produce again. Sadly not so, with both 40s being dispatched north on parcels services. Never mind, 55010 is a good alternative (and gives me successive runs with 008/009/010!).

Saturday 25/04/81

55021 02:20 Newcastle – York
46014 04:09 York – Newcastle
40028 08:35 Newcastle – Doncaster
55008 11:33 Doncaster – Retford
43117 + 43064 12:06 Retford – Doncaster
46051 13:02 Doncaster – York
55004 18:13 York – Kings Cross
40033 23:15 Kings Cross – Peterborough (via Cambridge)

I needed to be in York for lunchtime, so my overnight options were limited. I doubled back with 55021 to York for 46014 back to Newcastle, where – despite the date – a raging blizzard was in progress. This was also the first Summer Saturday of the season, so the much-loved 08:35 Newcastle – Yarmouth was running, and needed a suitable loco. What better loco than steam-heat 40028, fresh off the parcels from Kings Cross? Excellent! Sadly I couldn’t take it any further than Doncaster, as there was no way back in reasonable time if I took it further south around the Joint Lines. So it was 55008 forward to Retford for an HST to Doncaster, and 46051 on the 10:35 Kings Cross – Edinburgh.

With my engagement completed in York I took 55004 south to Kings Cross to cover the northbound overnights. There were diversion via Cambridge scheduled, and I’d not had a class 40 that way before, so I had high hopes. In fact I was spoiled for choice, with 40033 working the 23:15 to Bradford and 40028 (again!) the 00:02 to Newcastle. I assume 40028 had worked the Newcastle – Yarmouth to Whitemoor, then run light to Finsbury Park.

Sunday 26/04/81

40028 02:28 Peterborough – Newcastle
47076 07:45 Newcastle – York
55008 11:43 York – Kings Cross

The journey behind 40033 to Peterborough was not without incident, with one of the group of class 40 bashers being attacked physically by three pissed blokes. The assailants were arrested at Peterborough, so we were obliged to alight to give statements to the Police. Fortunately, although it took some time, both 40033 and 40028 had to come off their respective trains at Peterborough to take water, so we were able to catch 40028 forward running about 45 minutes late. We also ran via Stockton for good measure.

From Newcastle it was simply a case of “get me home”. 47076 took me to York, where 55008 was waiting on a York – Kings Cross stopper.
Quite an eventful month.
 
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