Ashford International has 2 services a day which are timetabled to run by SET but have FCC livery. The average passenger would believe that it was a FCC service.
It runs a FCC route as well, 0544 Ashford International to Bedford 0834, and then in the evening 1636 Bedford to Ashford International 1932.
I spoke to a FCC driver who informed me that a SET to FCC (or vica versa) driver change occurs at some point during the route, so in essence it is a joint TOC service.
So, would I be able to use a FCC only complimentary ticket on this service as I suppose it turns into a FCC train at some stage, or am I (and the driver) wrong?
Can someone shed some light?
District
Yes I can. Before Blackfriars bays it used to terimate in the bays there. As the bays closed they linked it up to provide a through train. However it's not a through train in a sense. If you ticket is point to point then it's fine.
FCC staff can't even use the train from Blackfriars to Elephant & Castle, if they were asked they'd have to buy a ticket to use the train. Once the doors on at Blackfriars then the train is fully on hire to SE and nothing more to do with FCC until it returns the next day.
Most FCC services south of the river are shown on NRE as Southeastern. That confused me when I first tried to use the journey planner advance search facility to identify where I could go with my free tickets. I've just looked up the return trip -17.14 from St Pancras- and that is shown as a FCC service but the up journey at 07.28 is as you say Southeastern which is really odd.
I'm curious why FCC run one through journey each weekday between Rochester and Bedford. The carriages are usually on the spare platform at Rochester all evening. Presumably it is DOO with a Southeastern driver part of the way.
I think I will take my chances and use it on my next trip as a return from my local station (Rainham) to Rochester is under half what I've been paying up to Swanley. If I miss the 17.14 from St Pancras coming home I can catch a later train to Swanley and then buy a single from there to Rochester.
Er it's not spare at Rochester at all. Prior to the Decemeber timetable change it terminated at Rochester then went empties to Victoria and formed a Victoria - Ashford International service. As of Dec 2011, it forms a passenger service from Rochester - Victoria. It has never spent all evening at Richester unless faulty.
As for DOO, only if the guard misses the train (has happened a few times).
If your ticket is FCC only it is not valid south of Blackfriars expect for Brighton and Sutton services only. Tickets not valid include services to the Sevenoaks service, Kent House, Orpington and Beckenham Junction service.
One of the reason why you FCC only tickets are not valid on these trains is fact FCC receives no money for tickets past Blackfriars to the Southeastern destinations.