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eMeS

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Some info, please.

What's the name or class of the freight wagons in my image? And do they carry a variety of freight?

I see them quite often on the WCML passing through Milton Keynes. Nobody seems to love them! - they always look dirty, and uncared for, not like the "Less CO2" wagons which look smart, and I guess are much newer.

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Ah, the Wembley to Daventry water train, runs three or four times a week on average, loaded going towards Daventry with bottled water from France and sometimes has the odd two or three wagons loaded with various timber products going the other way.
 

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Thanks to both for your information.

I now know why they remind me of what I've seen in Germany, but as to carrying water, I'd never have guessed.
 

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The wagons were built by DÜWAG in Germany in the 1980s for Cargowaggon, now owned by G.E Rail Services.

They are in fact two semi-coupled wagons built as a single entity - each half has a 45t payload capacity or 90t whole. They are classified by their owner as type GE117CT (CT = Channel Tunnel) and in the UK as IZA (as mentioned).

A diagram is here:
www.ge.com/capital/railcar/europe/uk/pdf/GE117CTHfirrs3.pdf

They are a standard covered wagon/van/boxcar (call them what you will) and carry any general products. As well as water (for your information, it is Evian bottled mineral water), I also know they carry paper reels from the Port of Tilbury in Essex.

A interesting fact about these wagons: they were white when built! The black coating is dust and dirt accumulated over the years.

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I now know why they remind me of what I've seen in Germany, but as to carrying water, I'd never have guessed.
There used to be a flow of timber products from the Buchloe area in Bavaria (Germany) to the UK. Being a fan of the 218 diesels I used to pass through there relatively often and there always used to be a set of UK-gauge wagons there, stood out like a sore thumb :lol: There was also a small flow of paper from Gratwein-Gratkorn near Graz in Austria using such wagons.

xplo42, I wouldn't say the wagons were white they were are unpainted aluminium which collects brake block dust and other crud pretty quickly; here is a picture of a similar wagon when still quite clean

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