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Bromley boy

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Clearly he thinks he's conducting an imaginary orchestra on the lineside, albeit badly.

Why would someone be carrying a gas mask with them to a event like this and why would he be wearing one? I'm genuinely intrigued.
I think people who do things like this draw unnecessary attention to themselves, do nothing to further the cause of railway enthusiasts as a whole and are just likely to contribute to ever more draconian safety regulations.

We've all leant out of windows at various points but doing it excessively in a manner likely to endanger yourself or others does nothing for the (already bad) image of the hobby. We will end up with regulations requiring bars on all drop lights on heritage stock if this kind of behaviour becomes too widespread and OTT.
 
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I think people who do things like this draw unnecessary attention to themselves, do nothing to further the cause of railway enthusiasts as a whole and are just likely to contribute to ever more draconian safety regulations.

We've all leant out of windows at various points but doing it excessively in a manner likely to endanger yourself or others does nothing for the (already bad) image of the hobby. We will end up with regulations requiring bars on all drop lights on heritage stock if this kind of behaviour becomes too widespread and OTT.
Exactly
 

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How nice! Separating the letters doesn't make this less offensive, however eccentric the behaviour.
Wait, you specifically know they were offended by this? Or you are yet another person getting offended on behalf of others?

With the behaviour that was shown, getting offended by such a word should be the least of their worries.
 

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I've seen it on the East Lancs close up. Was sat at a table with my ex and some friends and some head case climbed on the table between us and hung half his body out of the window, started flailing and wailing like some kind of lunatic. I've been on trains full of footy fans (Including myself) that are far better behaved.
Outrageous.

I must say if someone did that in front of me I'd be telling them extremely forcefully what I thought of them and their behaviour!
 
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Outrageous.

I must say if someone did that in front of me I'd be telling them extremely forcefully what I thought of them and their behaviour!
And I'd be telling the person telling me what they thought of me where to shove their ticket!
 

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And I'd be telling the person telling me what they thought of me where to shove their ticket!
I hope this is a joke!

I know some staff who work on the preservation scene, and if they saw this kind of ridiculous behaviour at a gala you'd be escorted off the premises and refused further travel. Quite possibly banned from future events as well.

Is it worth the risk just to make a t*t of yourself, not to mention risking your life, flailing out of a window?
 
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And I'd be telling the person telling me what they thought of me where to shove their ticket!
A few months back, an enthusiast and professional railway engineer was fatally injured in a horrific accident in the Balham area whilst travelling with their head through the open droplight window of a 442. They were struck by a large and immovable obstacle and it made quite a mess. This is why, in their latter months on Southern & GX services, those trains were fitted with hazard tape and then window bars over the publicly-usable droplights.

I would suggest very strongly that if a member of staff can be caught out by this, travelling in their local area with a relatively clear line of sight through any window on the section where this happened, to the degree that they are killed in front of rather upset members of the public, you have pretty much no place being indignant with those telling you that it isn't a terrifically good idea.
 

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A few months back, an enthusiast and professional railway engineer was fatally injured in a horrific accident in the Balham area whilst travelling with their head through the open droplight window of a 442. They were struck by a large and immovable obstacle and it made quite a mess. This is why, in their latter months on Southern & GX services, those trains were fitted with hazard tape and then window bars over the publicly-usable droplights.

I would suggest very strongly that if a member of staff can be caught out by this, travelling in their local area with a relatively clear line of sight through any window on the section where this happened, to the degree that they are killed in front of rather upset members of the public, you have pretty much no place being indignant with those telling you that it isn't a terrifically good idea.
Nail hit squarely on the head there.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/briton-injured-in-thai-train-fall-sfctfnd0q

Yet another reminder of the clear and present dangers of this type of activity, espescially in countries where "'elf and safety" is somewhat more lax than the UK.
 

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And I'd be telling the person telling me what they thought of me where to shove their ticket!
Take that attitude on one of my trains with someone who's paid for a ticket, after you've clambered onto a table in front of them, and acting against the signs clearly telling you not to lean out of the train, you'll have a one way ticket to being escorted off railway premises at the next stop.

A few months back, an enthusiast and professional railway engineer was fatally injured in a horrific accident in the Balham area whilst travelling with their head through the open droplight window of a 442. They were struck by a large and immovable obstacle and it made quite a mess. This is why, in their latter months on Southern & GX services, those trains were fitted with hazard tape and then window bars over the publicly-usable droplights.

I would suggest very strongly that if a member of staff can be caught out by this, travelling in their local area with a relatively clear line of sight through any window on the section where this happened, to the degree that they are killed in front of rather upset members of the public, you have pretty much no place being indignant with those telling you that it isn't a terrifically good idea.
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A few months back, an enthusiast and professional railway engineer was fatally injured in a horrific accident in the Balham area whilst travelling with their head through the open droplight window of a 442. They were struck by a large and immovable obstacle and it made quite a mess. This is why, in their latter months on Southern & GX services, those trains were fitted with hazard tape and then window bars over the publicly-usable droplights.

I would suggest very strongly that if a member of staff can be caught out by this, travelling in their local area with a relatively clear line of sight through any window on the section where this happened, to the degree that they are killed in front of rather upset members of the public, you have pretty much no place being indignant with those telling you that it isn't a terrifically good idea.

Why exactly can't people be allowed to make their own decisions anymore? 30 years ago nobody cared about this type of behaviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_24sDvzzrw

Just people having a little fun.
 

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Take that attitude on one of my trains with someone who's paid for a ticket, after you've clambered onto a table in front of them, and acting against the signs clearly telling you not to lean out of the train, you'll have a one way ticket to being escorted off railway premises at the next stop.
I don't "jump in front of people" anyway.
 

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Why exactly can't people be allowed to make their own decisions anymore? 30 years ago nobody cared about this type of behaviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_24sDvzzrw

Just people having a little fun.
The trouble is that it rapidly becomes "not very fun at all" when people lose significant chunks of their bodies against a tunnel portal or signal gantry. You only have to have one of these to ruin an event (and a family, and the next few weeks for all the lives of each witness, and potentially the viability of a decent tourist attraction).

There was indeed an era where everyone looked the other way and nobody cared. When it comes to the railway, things have rapidly moved on (for the better) over the last couple of decades, and it is not because everyone wants to wrap you in cotton wool.

Sigh. I didn't think my other post needed much expansion...
 
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Why exactly can't people be allowed to make their own decisions anymore? 30 years ago nobody cared about this type of behaviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_24sDvzzrw

Just people having a little fun.
Because, matey-boy, like it or not, we're now living in 2017 and if you're on private property such as a preserved railway or NR property it's generally best to abide by the rules of the owner.

Health and safety rules are set for the lowest common denominator i.e. you. I suggest you stop ruining it for everyone else and abide by them or you'll be, quite rightly, slung out on your ear! <(
 
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If people want to lean out the window then that's up to them. It's all part of a gala not my cup of tea but this is going a bit far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc8SX7iJxcQ
Can someone explain this arms flailing business to me please? What's it all about, and how and when did it start?

I have to say seeing stuff like that actively puts me off railtours and special days at preserved railways. That and various reports of other behaviour of some people.
 

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I don't "jump in front of people" anyway.
The guy I was talking about climbed up and stood on the table we were sat at and leaned half of his body out of the window flailing his arms and wailing. If he was a footy or rugby fan or part of a stag do the police would probably be waiting at the next station. Me and the missus weren't afraid, she thought it was hilarious, I thought it was embarrassing, but it wasn't on.
 

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Maybe there ought to be a Window-Hangers Anonymous club where those of us who have brought shame and disgrace on the rail enthusiasts of the UK can admit to our sins and promise never to do it again. I'll hold my hand up and say that I've stuck my head out of the window more times than I care to remember in my misspent youth, but now I prefer to listen to the music with the window open and a beer in my hand.
 

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Maybe there ought to be a Window-Hangers Anonymous club where those of us who have brought shame and disgrace on the rail enthusiasts of the UK can admit to our sins and promise never to do it again. I'll hold my hand up and say that I've stuck my head out of the window more times than I care to remember in my misspent youth, but now I prefer to listen to the music with the window open and a beer in my hand.
We could all hand our gas masks in like a gun amnesty.
 

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I suppose all the m*ngs will be out at the NVR gala this weekend, waving furiously. Hopefully, a strategically positioned cricket bat will be placed in the shrubbery!
 
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We all need to respect the rights of those who attend diesel galas with the intention of not enjoying themselves.

If you're not there to enjoy the traction, what are you there for?
 

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We all need to respect the rights of those who attend diesel galas with the intention of not enjoying themselves.

If you're not there to enjoy the traction, what are you there for?
I kind of agree and kind of don't. Climbing on the table I am sat at and acting like a nutter whilst drunk is no better than acting like a footy hooligan and so many on here are quick to denounce footy fans when they have to share trains with them.
 

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If you're not there to enjoy the traction, what are you there for?
I've absolutely nothing against enjoying the traction. However, looking like you've just left an adult tupperware party, hanging halfway out of a window and waving your arms about making silly salutes seems to be taking the enjoyment a bit too far.
 

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Maybe there ought to be a Window-Hangers Anonymous Club where those of us who have brought shame and disgrace on the rail enthusiasts of the UK can admit to our sins and promise never to do it again. I'll hold my hand up and say that I've stuck my head out of the window more times than I care to remember in my misspent youth, but now I prefer to listen to the music with the window open and a beer in my hand.
Now what could we call such a club and what would its 'members' be called? :lol:
 
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