Future Of Caledonian Sleeper Class 86s/87

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  1. EE Andy b1

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    I know that's an old photo.
    Did not think the 2 AC loco's would have been painted that quick. We will see soon enough I'm sure.
    As long as it's not painted Porterbrook purple again! Any classic livery would be nice.
     
  2. ColinC

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    That's strange, as they were moved into the works yesterday morning.
     
  3. Murray J

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    ah ok gotcha. but hopefully it is painted in either intercity or BR, although in theory the old virgin trains livery is also on the cards I guess.
     
  4. DBS92042

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    I certainly wouldn't mind the seeing the old Virgin livery on one of them, and it would also be quite fitting seeing as Virgin Trains is soon to be no more. I suspect it's likely to be a BR livery though.
     
  5. TimboM

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    Captainbigun has already said it won't be BR Blue. It really won't be Virgin Trains either.
    That leaves...
     
  6. DJH1971

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    Electric blue?
     
  7. TimboM

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    LSL/Hosking have a habit (rule?) of painting locos in a livery they were once in. Were 87002 or 86101 ever in Electric Blue? (Genuine question)
    Either way, it's not that... ;)
     
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    I was referring to 86101, when it first emerged as E3191.
     
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    I'd assumed that they were both going to be painted into Northern livery, ready to work peak extra Airedale services...
     
  12. DBS92042

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    I haven't heard that option before, it'll certainly be an interesting sight if they do go into Northern colours.
     
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    Sorry, just wishful thinking on my part!
     
  14. USRailFan

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    Intercity Swallow? :p
     
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    Although 86101 is the first ever 86 to Visit Eastleigh 87002 is not the first 87. That honour fell to 87013 in September 1992 on its way to Bournemouth open day if anyone is interested?
     
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    Always interested! Thanks for the info. Intercity Swallow livery!
     
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    Push pull with 442s??
     
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    Any news on potential destinations where the locomotives will be used?
     
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    They've been sold to Locomotive Services, so I'm assuming they'll be used on charters and private hire. I believe the fate of 86401 is still to be decided.
     
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    Apologies; I was aware of the change in ownership, I’m curious how LSL will make an income from them if ACLG decided that they were unable to.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I think the sale of the locos was in part to aid the return of 89001 and allow the ACLG to focus on their other locos at Barrow Hill, rather than 86101 and 87002 being unprofitable.
     
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    Better known as Intercity Executive, which I agree is a livery too often overlooked these days. It did a great job of tying the yellow warning panel into the actual livery, and looked very tidy when applied correctly. Would love to see more of it again.
     
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    LSL don't need to make an income from them. LSL / Saphos Trains / L&NWR Heritage etc. are all owned by a very, very wealthy chap named Jeremy Hosking. Whilst he runs them as businesses and I'm sure they're generate a fair bit of trade through railtours and the like, they don't need to make ends meet in quite the same way ACLG / ETL.
     
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    They can paint em both pink with yellow spots for me. Just as long they don’t get exported especially the seven
     
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    Didn't some 86s carry NSE livery? Just a thought!
     
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    86401 and named Northampton Town
     
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    87012 also carried NSE livery, and was named "The Olympian" while we were bidding for the 2012 Olympics. I believe it still carries NSE livery in Bulgaria.
     
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    Definitely working in Bulgaria in 2017. Here's a pic of it in 2015: https://flic.kr/p/293XyQG

    And 2017: https://flic.kr/p/VhWJFf

    Struggling to find more recent pics so unsure if it still runs.
     

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