Future of Newhaven Marine and Harbour Stations?

[Islineclear3_1]

I presume the aggregate facility can only be built once the port access road/bridge has been constructed?

 

[trainmania100]

I presume the aggregate facility can only be built once the port access road/bridge has been constructed?

Maybe, although there is plant at the harbour, the land has already been bulldozed and gritted with gravel type material, so looks like they've already got access to the land somehow. Will stop off on the way to work tomorrow and see if there's much progressing. Think there was also a crane too but can't be certain if it was for the plant or for rampion

 

[Sunset route]

Rumour from very close to the ground, says that only Lewes signalbox area will close and migrate this weekend and the two Newhaven signalboxes will migrate at a later future date (due to issues).

The “training sim” doesn’t show Newhaven Town staying as a crossing keeper position when that does close, but the displaced staff were certain that was what was supposed to be happening so maybe that’s the issue.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Very interesting and perhaps good news in some respects.

Rumour from very close to the ground, says that only Lewes signalbox area will close and migrate this weekend and the two Newhaven signalboxes will migrate at a later future date (due to issues).

The “training sim” doesn’t show Newhaven Town staying as a crossing keeper position when that does close, but the displaced staff were certain that was what was supposed to be happening so maybe that’s the issue.

Thanks for the update

 

[trainmania100]

Looks like some more work at Newhaven marine this week as there's a freight in the system for tonight. No return path yet but schedule was created yesterday at 2am so maybe still in the works
https://www.rail-record.co.uk/rail/liverail/train/1541430/06/03/19

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Looks like some more work at Newhaven marine this week as there's a freight in the system for tonight. No return path yet but schedule was created yesterday at 2am so maybe still in the works
https://www.rail-record.co.uk/rail/liverail/train/1541430/06/03/19

I hope the points from the mainline into the yard will be reconnected to the signalbox before the freight arrives....

 

[trainmania100]

I hope the points from the mainline into the yard will be reconnected to the signalbox before the freight arrives....

Perhaps it's not for that then

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I note the new signals at Lewes still have LW plates so presume they are still under local control from the Lewes panel?

 

[pdeaves]

I note the new signals at Lewes still have LW plates so presume they are still under local control from the Lewes panel?

Yes, Lewes 'box never shut in the end.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Yes, Lewes 'box never shut in the end.

That's good news; thanks for confirming

 

[trainmania100]

Hello people, after another trip to Newhaven marine on my way home from work (I live near Newhaven harbour so I'm your one stop shop for information)
I find out that a new road bridge is being constructed at Newhaven port that goes across the river and railway line. See attached photo.
Other than 313214 on a Seaford to Brighton service, I noted little other development work other than sand piles in a closed off construction area on both sides of the padestrian path.
What relevance to Newhaven marine is this? Well it's a new bridge over the Seaford branch line near Newhaven harbour footbridge (near the water treatment facility) and it will give access to construction traffic at Newhaven port for the development of marine dredged aggs batching wharf for dispatch by road and RAIL

 

[swt_passenger]

Hello people, after another trip to Newhaven marine on my way home from work (I live near Newhaven harbour so I'm your one stop shop for information)
I find out that a new road bridge is being constructed at Newhaven port that goes across the river and railway line...

The new bridge for access to the aggregates wharf has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread already. The plans were approved last summer, so this latest application to the Marine management organisation must be about the detailed method of building.

 

[trainmania100]

The new bridge for access to the aggregates wharf has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread already. The plans were approved last summer, so this latest application to the Marine management organisation must be about the detailed method of building.

Ok thanks for confirming, news to me

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Details of the scheme can be found here:

https://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/roads...mes/newhaven-port-access-road/scheme-details/

Newhaven Port Access Road

1. 1. History of the Scheme
2. 2. The need for the Newhaven Port Access Road
3. 3. Scheme Details
4. 4. Funding and Delivery
5. 5. Timeline for the development and delivery of the Port Access Road
6. 6. Construction Phase

 

[Meerkat]

Does the new bridge mean both level crossings south of Harbour station can close?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Does the new bridge mean both level crossings south of Harbour station can close?

I would expect the new road/bridge to render Beach Road crossing redundant.

 

[trainmania100]

I noted a new red buffer stop at newhaven marine today, whilst out seeing the 387s on the Seaford branch.
On the Newhaven harbour end, of the line adjacent to the platform line, at Marine.

 

[MarkyT]

I noted a new red buffer stop at newhaven marine today, whilst out seeing the 387s on the Seaford branch.
On the Newhaven harbour end, of the line adjacent to the platform line, at Marine.

There were white painted sleepers stacked up and chained to the rails on all three roads when I visited on the 'Sussex Slammer' in 2004.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

387s on the Seafords?

 

[Dren Ahmeti]

387s on the Seafords?

GatEx aren’t using their stock as it’s a weekend and there’s a block somewhere iirc.
Southern need the capacity for an event at the Amex, so instead of the 313’s, they borrow the 387’s.

Fun fact, as far as I understand, local agreements prevent the 387’s from taking more than Notch 2 of power on the Seafords, otherwise the whole line might find itself without a power supply when it all goes boom!

 

[trainmania100]

Following another quick visit to marine please find attached a diagram of the new road bridge crossing the railway line , to be finished 2020

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Following another quick visit to marine please find attached a diagram of the new road bridge crossing the railway line , to be finished 2020

Where is the bridge going to be?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I think near the end of Beach Road east of the Marine over the Seaford line

Where is the bridge going to be?

 

[swt_passenger]

Where is the bridge going to be?

You could usefully check out the local authority explanation and drawings linked in post #224 a few weeks back. It’s much further round than the existing Beach Road level crossing area.

 

[trainmania100]

Please see attached blue line indicates where the new bridge will be. It connects the roundabout at the top, to Newhaven marine port. Construction already underway as there is a big piling drill there and mud bank

 

[Islineclear3_1]

yes, preparatory ground works have commenced both sides of the railway and Mill Creek

Although the bridge might be a good thing commercially, it will spoil the view eastwards from Oyster footbridge towards Seaford

Its a shame the new points to the Marine can't be reconnected to the frame inside Newhaven Harbour box, at least temporarily - then at least trains can reverse there again instead of blocking the single line section towards Seaford

 

[najaB]

...at least temporarily...

You do realise that word has a different meaning in the railway world, right?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

You do realise that word has a different meaning in the railway world, right?

ha ha, yes

 

[trainmania100]

Lots of orange men at marine today, looks like they've got a load of old rails pulled up

 

[trainmania100]

Volker Beaver Tamper is tamping the junction at newhaven marine