GA Class 90 Mark 3 Sets Withdrawal

[hexagon789]

I recall a story of a forum member boarding a GWR service which was being diverted in to Waterloo and spotted a LSL fitted coach in the consist and reported it. Train was cancelled en route as a result. Anyone else recall or did I imagine it?

The might be the one: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/hsts-on-3rd-rail-lines.114179/

 

[43096]

The might be the one: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/hsts-on-3rd-rail-lines.114179/

It should be said that just because it says LSL on the vehicle it doesn’t necessarily mean the bogies are actually LSL. I’d bet that the labels aren’t always checked on C4 overhaul. The only sure way is a physical check of the bogies.

 

[hexagon789]

It should be said that just because it says LSL on the vehicle it doesn’t necessarily mean the bogies are actually LSL. I’d bet that the labels aren’t always checked on C4 overhaul. The only sure way is a physical check of the bogies.

I've seen photos of Mk3s (can't recall if it was this forum or elsewhere) with LSL and SSL printed on the ends!

 

[43096]

I've seen photos of Mk3s (can't recall if it was this forum or elsewhere) with LSL and SSL printed on the ends!

That can also be correct in a way as vehicles can, and sometimes do, have one of each type. Such a vehicle really ought to be just labelled LSL, of course.

 

[TheEdge]

Nice paint shop at Eastleigh isn't there. DCR have been doing all the other Chiltern Mk3 moves.

We thought the rake going away behind 60055 was going to Chiltern via Eastleigh. Our scrap rakes have gone direct to Sims so far...

 

[XCTurbostar]

We thought the rake going away behind 60055 was going to Chiltern via Eastleigh. Our scrap rakes have gone direct to Sims so far...

Well I mean Chiltern could do with more stock.. but they're a DMU TOC so I'd be surprised if they wanted more 45 year old coaches.. Having said that, if it gets sent with a DVT and the formation is 5/6 coaches that might be true.

 

[Domh245]

but they're a DMU TOC

Apart from their 68+(modified) mk3+DVT formations...

 

[XCTurbostar]

Apart from their 68+(modified) mk3+DVT formations...

But, if there was opportunity to replace all those MK3s with Turbostars.. they would.

 

[cactustwirly]

But, if there was opportunity to replace all those MK3s with Turbostars.. they would.

But there isn't, and they need more stock!

 

[87015]

Its not more stock its like for like. I don't see what relevance Turbostars have...

 

[hexagon789]

That can also be correct in a way as vehicles can, and sometimes do, have one of each type. Such a vehicle really ought to be just labelled LSL, of course.

Surely if that was the case it should have LSL at the appropriate end and SSL at the appropriate ends only?

This had both labels at both ends iirc.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Looks like the formation today contains 8x former AGA Mk3s.

 

[43096]

Surely if that was the case it should have LSL at the appropriate end and SSL at the appropriate ends only?

This had both labels at both ends iirc.

No it should have LSL on both ends. You want the “worst case” restriction shown on the vehicle.

 

[hexagon789]

No it should have LSL on both ends. You want the “worst case” restriction shown on the vehicle.

 

[83A]

Air con stock isn't much use to a heritage line. Unless they want to grow tomatoes.

Ha..at the moment that could be their only revenue stream, although probably growing weed might be more profitable.

 

[delticdave]

Mark III coaches with the 'Long Swing Link (LSL)' (as opposed to the 'Short Swing Link (SSL) suspension are banned from third rail regions as there is a risk that the suspension could touch the third rail if there is a bit too much to-ing and fro-ing. If I remember correctly the LSL suspension was fitted to the Mk. III coaches that were part of the original HST sets (not those Mk. III coaches that were retrofitted with the equipment to run in an HST formation). See below photo for a visual on the problem:

View attachment 76247

Thanks for the pix, very helpful.

 

[tricky18jan]

Does anyone happen to know what coaches went to Eastleigh today?

thanks
Rich

 

[XCTurbostar]

Does anyone happen to know what coaches went to Eastleigh today?

thanks
Rich

The move involved 7x TSOs and 1x FO
12027, 12041, 12151, 12019, 12115, 12026, 12012
11094

 

[tricky18jan]

The move involved 7x TSOs and 1x FO
12027, 12041, 12151, 12019, 12115, 12026, 12012
11094

much appreciated

 

[childwallblues]

Another rake of coaches and DVTs went to Crewe today. I'm told 90001 was in charge of said rake.

90001 and 90002 are returning to the town of their birth with 90003-15 to follow. Perhaps LSL may consider bringing football specials back to electifried lines.

 

[swt_passenger]

Why Eastleigh? I have never known Eastleigh to be a scrap site unless that's changed

The move was to Arriva’s Eastleigh TRSMD, not to Arlington’s Eastleigh Works.

A firm called Raxstar have a scrap business within the works area, but I suspect that is not relevant to this move.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Crewe Heritage Centre has now recieved its 82118 and 12114 from Porterbrook.

 

[47827]

90001 and 90002 are returning to the town of their birth with 90003-15 to follow. Perhaps LSL may consider bringing football specials back to electifried lines.

I'm sure you must be aware the owner of LSL is a main shareholder of one of the London based premiership teams and has direct access to the clients who would wish to use the trains in the event that was part of the plan. There is very little use for 4 electric locomotives without some sort of plan. The current schedules of charters don't allow for much use of a small fleet of electric traction that will cost up to 6 figures a year to keep serviceable on the mainline.

 

[Abbo]

Which footie Club is Mr Hoskin affialed with and is it the sort of club that would fill a train with well heeled diners ?

 

[JonathanH]

Which footie Club is Mr Hoskin affialed with and is it the sort of club that would fill a train with well heeled diners ?

Crystal Palace

He did arrange this in 2016 for the players and some supporters https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2016/april/jeremy-hoskings-steam-train-to-southampton/

However, there could be a market for the trains that sometimes get organised for supporters of London clubs to get to matches in the North West - it doesn't have to be Crystal Palace - for example, a train was organised a few years back for Chelsea supporters to get to a midweek match in Burnley - .

 

[Abbo]

Thanks and interesting.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

However, there could be a market for the trains that sometimes get organised for supporters of London clubs to get to matches in the North West - it doesn't have to be Crystal Palace - for example, a train was organised a few years back for Chelsea supporters to get to a midweek match in Burnley -

ICWC regularly run weekend football specials from the North West to/from London so there must be a market.

 

[tricky18jan]

Can anyone confirm a move yesterday of stock to Barry ?
Also if anyone can provide stock ID’s that would be great
Rich

 

[XCTurbostar]

Can anyone confirm a move yesterday of stock to Barry ?
Also if anyone can provide stock ID’s that would be great
Rich

Hi Rich,
Move yesterday was 5Z37 0903 Norwich Gb Railfreight to Barry Tourist Railway
66730
3 FOs (11082, 11066, 11072) (All Coach Ks)
1 TSOB (10404)

Not sure what the fate of these will be.

 

[tricky18jan]

Hi Rich,
Move yesterday was 5Z37 0903 Norwich Gb Railfreight to Barry Tourist Railway
66730
3 FOs (11082, 11066, 11072) (All Coach Ks)
1 TSOB (10404)

Not sure what the fate of these will be.

very interesting move!! Thank you very much