Glasgow Queen Street refurbishment and remodelling

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Blindtraveler

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Nowhere near enough to a Pacer :(
Personally see BrewDog as a bit to niche and alternative for for a place such as a station. Marston's or Greene King or perhaps one of the Whitbread brands wood to my way of thinking more appropriate. I certainly shall not use it
 

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Personally see BrewDog as a bit to niche and alternative for for a place such as a station. Marston's or Greene King or perhaps one of the Whitbread brands wood to my way of thinking more appropriate. I certainly shall not use it

Not sure what is nice or alternative about one of Scotland's biggest brewers. They also have an outlet at Edinburgh airport. There are no shortage of other drinking establishments in the area.
 

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Not sure what is nice or alternative about one of Scotland's biggest brewers. They also have an outlet at Edinburgh airport. There are no shortage of other drinking establishments in the area.
It's not alternative, being primarily a product of US venture capital and marketing. It's niche though, in serving about 10 different types of basically identical awful beer at unjustifiably high prices. A station should have a pub where you can buy a normal-strength beer that hasn't been hopped to hell and back. Brewdog is probably the worst possible tenant for a station pub I can think of.

Luckily there's several other pubs in the area that are just as near the platforms as this one will be, so it's a fairly moot point.
 

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When the plans for this area were announced it was suggested that it would be as much a social area for Strathclyde University as for the users of the station.
And the alternative breweries mentioned are based in the south of England, aren't they? I think that Greene King own Belhaven but I don't know about Marston's.
 

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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
What, no soulless, expensive and devoid of atmosphere rip-off SSP run Beer House pub?! :E Cue inevitable jokes about BrewDog <D

As this is a Scotland thread, I would like to mention that on first glance, the abbreviation SSP stands for the Scottish Socialist Party, which was convened at one time by "that man" with a permanent sun tan who classes himself as an international socialist of the Leon Trotsky tradition.

Could you kindly explain what the abbreviation/acronym actually stands for please?
 

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As this is a Scotland thread, I would like to mention that on first glance, the abbreviation SSP stands for the Scottish Socialist Party, which was convened at one time by "that man" with a permanent sun tan who classes himself as an international socialist of the Leon Trotsky tradition.

Could you kindly explain what the abbreviation/acronym actually stands for please?
Think it means Select Service Partners. A discount card used on station outlets. As staff catering areas closed. Although in dying numbers these days. Reducing the discount amount did not help either.
 

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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
I would read it as Statutory Sick Pay in the first instance, but you do you :p

In this specific instance though it refers to SSP Group:

Think it means Select Service Partners. A discount card used on station outlets. As staff catering areas closed. Although in dying numbers these days. Reducing the discount amount did not help either.

Thanks both.
 

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Thanks both.
The card is called bitecard. Looking at the plans for Queen Street it won't be any good at any of the outlets.

If you look at Glasgow Central it can be used at Delice du France and Burger King and the Bar. However not at Starbucks, M&S food or Boots food. None of the newer outlets are part of the scheme.

Yet to find an airport outlet which accepts them.
 

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If you look at Glasgow Central it can be used at Delice du France and Burger King and the Bar. However not at Starbucks, M&S food or Boots food. None of the newer outlets are part of the scheme.
I still miss the Central Bar. With a Bite card it was a cheap & decent enough pint. You knew Last Orders was coming in there when the sleeper reached the left hand end of the departure board.
 

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I still miss the Central Bar. With a Bite card it was a cheap & decent enough pint. You knew Last Orders was coming in there when the sleeper reached the left hand end of the departure board.
I miss Bonaparts and the view over the station.
 

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I heard that Spoons were going in there. Not heard anything recently.

Wouldn't that make about 5 (or 6?) of their establishments within 5-10 mins walk?

Having said that I tend to find that Wetherspoons at railway stations tend to be some of their better ones as they attract passing trade rather than the all day drinker.
 

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Wouldn't that make about 5 (or 6?) of their establishments within 5-10 mins walk?
The one on Bothwell Street shut a couple of years ago. That one was mainly the lunchtime crowd from the offices around it IMX. There’s still one backing onto P1 in Jamaica Street and one above the Low Level platforms on Argyle Street (above the actual platforms, not the entrance). The other one you’re thinking of is probably the place at the bottom of Union Street, this isn’t a Wetherspoons, think it’s one of the other chains (Belhaven/Greene King?).
 

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The one on Bothwell Street shut a couple of years ago. That one was mainly the lunchtime crowd from the offices around it IMX. There’s still one backing onto P1 in Jamaica Street and one above the Low Level platforms on Argyle Street (above the actual platforms, not the entrance). The other one you’re thinking of is probably the place at the bottom of Union Street, this isn’t a Wetherspoons, think it’s one of the other chains (Belhaven/Greene King?).

Just looking at the map. You have all within a few mins of each other
Sir John Moore - Glasgow Central, Argyle St
Crystal Palace - Jamaica St
Counting House - George Square (probably the best of the four)
Society Rooms - W George St

Not that having clusters of Spoons in city centres is that unusual.
 

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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
Just looking at the map. You have all within a few mins of each other
Sir John Moore - Glasgow Central, Argyle St
Crystal Palace - Jamaica St
Counting House - George Square (probably the best of the four)
Society Rooms - W George St

Not that having clusters of Spoons in city centres is that unusual.

Before Queen Street had the works done, I think the Wetherspoons below the Burger King was Camperdown Place.

Before that, it was Bar Europa, and going back before then, it used to be Sadie Frosts, which was a well known gay bar according to somebody who I once worked with a long time ago.
 

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The one on Bothwell Street shut a couple of years ago. That one was mainly the lunchtime crowd from the offices around it IMX. There’s still one backing onto P1 in Jamaica Street and one above the Low Level platforms on Argyle Street (above the actual platforms, not the entrance). The other one you’re thinking of is probably the place at the bottom of Union Street, this isn’t a Wetherspoons, think it’s one of the other chains (Belhaven/Greene King?).
Pub on Union St is now O'Neils chain.

What was the pub in Queen St called? Next to Burger King?
 

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Just looking at the map. You have all within a few mins of each other
Sir John Moore - Glasgow Central, Argyle St
Crystal Palace - Jamaica St
Counting House - George Square (probably the best of the four)
Society Rooms - W George St

Not that having clusters of Spoons in city centres is that unusual.

Just as an aside - if you visit the toilets in the Sir John Moore you are standing in an area that was one this....

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That's an astonishing photo

If I can ask though, which platforms are these and what happened to them to make them part of a pub?
 

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That's an astonishing photo

If I can ask though, which platforms are these and what happened to them to make them part of a pub?
Glasgow Central low level, the line was closed. If you want to see more of it there is a fantastic thread on the urban Glasgow website.
 

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That's an astonishing photo

If I can ask though, which platforms are these and what happened to them to make them part of a pub?

There used to be two island platforms at Glasgow Central Low Level and this is the old "northern" platform, when plans were drawn up to reopen the line only the southern platform was needed and the Westergate Building (that the Sir John Moore Pub is on the ground floor of) filled that void that was to the north of Argyle Street The ground was raised to platform level and the basement level established. If you get on the Glasgow Central Tour you will stand on the remaining part of the platform below Hope Street, and you will see the brick wall of the Westergate building
 

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Thanks for the detail on this, I just couldn't understand what I was looking at before, but now I do.

:)

When the current situation resolves I must see if I can get on one of those tours too. Sounds very interesting.
 

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