Glasgow - Southampton

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  1. puffinscot

    puffinscot Member

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    hi everyone
    I'm taking the family to Southampton later this summer. We live in Glasgow.
    Ideally because of the long journey time for the kids I'd split the journey overnight in Wolverhampton however I don't think my off-peak return would be valid the next day.
    So the ideal is
    14.00 (Thursday) Glasgow -Wolverhampton
    09.42 (Friday) Wolverhampton - Southampton C

    Return a week later on Friday leaving Southampton in mid-morning.

    Am I right that I can't use a Thursday dated Glasgow-Southampton off peak return, because the condition is that I complete my journey by 04.29 on Friday.
    Any other suggestions that would keep costs down - with the family railcard it looks like just under £280 for the off peak return, I can see a single on the Friday morning for about £60 extra which looks good value if I do need that extra ticket.

    Many thanks
    Kevin
     
  2. Hadders

    Hadders Established Member

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    The 'not via London' off-peak return has no break of journey restrictions.

    You may break your journey overnight on the outward portion. You actually have until 0429 on day 3 to complete your outward journey.
     
  3. puffinscot

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    Thank you for that quick reply. This sounds very encouraging! Do I need to carry anything to prove I am valid on Day 2?

    I ask because I've seen notes that say "...if the journey could not be completed it can be continued the next day."

    My journey could be continued but I'm choosing not to. Is that note just poorly worded? Or am I looking at the wrong note?

    Thanks again
    Kevin
     
  4. najaB

    najaB Veteran Member

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    Yes. Your ticket. Same as on Day 1.

    It is for you to determine if you can complete your journey in one day, not the railway.
     
  5. puffinscot

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    Great. Thanks for that. Much appreciated.
    Kevin
     
  6. puffinscot

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    Hi again
    I've noticed I can save on the ferry to Isle of Wight by booking my off peak return to East Cowes. Except the systems won't offer me the 14.00 Glasgow Central to Wolverhampton train doing this (M-F). Just trains around 12 noon then 1600. Does anyone know a trick to force one of the fare engines to show the 1400 so I can book seats on that service? The fare engines on scotrail, South west trains offer me a good fare under £310 for 4 of us (2+2) including railcard (ones like Virgin East Coast offer something nearer £550)
    Thank you. Kevin
     
  7. Romilly

    Romilly Established Member

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    I suspect that the £550 fare you are being shown is the fare without the family railcard discount. This is because, even where the journey planners are allowing for an overnight break of outward journey, they are forcing you onto an early-morning train on the second day of the outward journey, i.e. a train at a time when the family railcard is not valid.
     
  8. John @ home

    John @ home Established Member Fares Advisor

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    There are no times when a Family & Friends Railcard is not valid for a Glasgow - Southampton journey.
     
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    Romilly Established Member

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    I stand corrected, thank you.
     
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