GN Class 717

61653 HTAFC · 28 Sep 2018

Malcolmffc said:
Why? It’s horribly dated.

You say horribly dated, I say nostalgic...

Let's call the whole thing off!

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OwenB · 28 Sep 2018

61653 HTAFC said:
You say horribly dated, I say nostalgic...

Let's call the whole thing off!

My ear worm for the day. Thanks! :lol:

Julian G · 28 Sep 2018

The 1436 Moorgate-Gordon Hill has been cancelled.

jon0844 · 28 Sep 2018

Julian G said:
The 1436 Moorgate-Gordon Hill has been cancelled.

Well it was quite a strenuous working schedule.

Team Defect · 28 Sep 2018

2G92 ran today, this was the first 717 'in service' run. More of a box ticking run to say a unit went into service. Ran Fast from Moorgate to Gordon Hill. A grand total of 1 real passenger and a load of GTR managers on board. Unit ran around 17 mins late due to minor issue of not enough track circuit clips on board and a points failure just outside the depot.

2G96 this was cancelled at the last minute due to a cab door fault. This was also due to run in service, again Moorgate fast to Gordon Hill.

jon0844 · 28 Sep 2018

If people had known sooner I expect it would have been full of spotters!

387star · 28 Sep 2018

It's on their facebook

APUK002 · 28 Sep 2018

jamieP said:
717s are only cleared for passenger use between Moorgate and Gordon Hill.

Ah,interesting,what about the rest of the routes?

APUK002 · 28 Sep 2018

Team Defect said:
2G92 ran today, this was the first 717 'in service' run. More of a box ticking run to say a unit went into service. Ran Fast from Moorgate to Gordon Hill. A grand total of 1 real passenger and a load of GTR managers on board. Unit ran around 17 mins late due to minor issue of not enough track circuit clips on board and a points failure just outside the depot.

2G96 this was cancelled at the last minute due to a cab door fault. This was also due to run in service, again Moorgate fast to Gordon Hill.

Oooo,kool

whoosh · 28 Sep 2018

rebmcr said:
How do you think the ATO is being done if not?

No one apart from Testing & Commissioning Drivers are trained on ATO yet. The solitary run in passenger service had one of these at the helm.
Manual driving only at the moment for everyone else until the training for ATO/ETCS starts, probably next year.

387star · 29 Sep 2018

The doors open automatically in the tunnel section?

BlyRF · 1 Oct 2018

Latest vid I found on YouTube by a user from the 25th:

And further to add, some latest pics I took from my local commute home from Highbury & Islington:

BlyRF · 1 Oct 2018

BlyRF said:
Latest vid I found on YouTube by a user from the 25th:

And further to add, some latest pics I took from my local commute home from Highbury & Islington:

And just to explain the above attached pics, my reasoning behind the white painted background could be done to GTR finally realising the contrast between new trains and older infrastructure design, so it’s a sign of good things to come (unless if you found this as one of their “cheap” station refurbs) lol

jellybaby · 1 Oct 2018

BlyRF said:
And further to add, some latest pics I took from my local commute home from Highbury & Islington:

Ooo, they have taken down the Macmillan ads!

choochoochoo · 1 Oct 2018

Will there be a 717 sim at Hornsey too ? Or is the plan to train all drivers on 700s and convert them to 717 drivers with 2 day course ?

APUK002 · 2 Oct 2018

choochoochoo said:
Will there be a 717 sim at Hornsey too ? Or is the plan to train all drivers on 700s and convert them to 717 drivers with 2 day course ?

Is there a 717 sim?

BlueHorizonUK · 4 Oct 2018

Does anyone know if we are going to lose the 8 carriage trains from Kings Cross to Welwyn Garden City when these 717s come into service? Or are they keeping them both and Great Northern is from Moorgate and it remains as Thameslink from Kings Cross?

Thanks

hwl · 4 Oct 2018

BlueHorizonUK said:
Does anyone know if we are going to lose the 8 carriage trains from Kings Cross to Welwyn Garden City when these 717s come into service? Or are they keeping them both and Great Northern is from Moorgate and it remains as Thameslink from Kings Cross?

Thanks

8 cars will go though Thameslink Core rather than to Kings Cross (eventually)

Failed Unit · 4 Oct 2018

hwl said:
8 cars will go though Thameslink Core rather than to Kings Cross (eventually)

Current plan is May 2019 for this. (Won’t bet any cash on it)

We should also see the 2 extra services on the Moorgate - Hertford route then. Hopefully taking the timetable to closer to what was in the consultation. Not sure if Hadley wood will be happy to lose its service to KX but I am sure other places on the WGC branch will be glad to return to 4tph in the peak. (Rather than 2)

Julian G · 5 Oct 2018

717003 is out on the driver training, it ran ECS from Moorgate-Gordon Hill.

Railperf · 5 Oct 2018

Any 717's out this weekend?

717001 · 5 Oct 2018

Saw pictures earlier in the week of 2 more arriving in the UK - one mentioned as being 717004

APUK002 · 5 Oct 2018

717001 said:
Saw pictures earlier in the week of 2 more arriving in the UK - one mentioned as being 717004

Kool,how many we got now?

Class315 · 6 Oct 2018

717010 was the other unit delivered on Wednesday, was unable to see 004 when coming over the flyover on Friday evening due to failing light and the 66 and barrier coaches obscuring the view.

In semi-related 717 news station staff in the Finsbury Park & Northern City line group start their familiarisation training on the units from Monday Morning.

717001 · 6 Oct 2018

APUK002 said:
Kool,how many we got now?

From various comments believe the current ones are:
717003
717004
717005
717007
717008
717009
717010
Should be one more - possibly 717006?

APUK002 · 6 Oct 2018

717001 said:
From various comments believe the current ones are:
717003
717004
717005
717007
717008
717009
717010
Should be one more - possibly 717006?

Thanks for the info

Aictos · 6 Oct 2018

Class315 said:
717010 was the other unit delivered on Wednesday, was unable to see 004 when coming over the flyover on Friday evening due to failing light and the 66 and barrier coaches obscuring the view.

In semi-related 717 news station staff in the Finsbury Park & Northern City line group start their familiarisation training on the units from Monday Morning.

I guess that also would eventually apply to Welwyn Garden City, Gordon Hill, Hertford North and Stevenage station staff too as they are turnback locations in regular service.

Fred26 · 6 Oct 2018

Class 403 said:
I guess that also would eventually apply to Welwyn Garden City, Gordon Hill, Hertford North and Stevenage station staff too as they are turnback locations in regular service.

It'll apply to all stations that 717s will call.
Those listed, plus Watton-at-Stone, will be the priority, but all platform staff along the routes will need to know how to shut the train down, etc.

jon0844 · 7 Oct 2018

Class 403 said:
I guess that also would eventually apply to Welwyn Garden City, Gordon Hill, Hertford North and Stevenage station staff too as they are turnback locations in regular service.

Some staff have already had their training for 717s. It's a few hours at most, given there's very little difference between a 717 and 700. Note I'm talking platform staff, not drivers!

APUK002 · 7 Oct 2018

jon0844 said:
Some staff have already had their training for 717s. It's a few hours at most, given there's very little difference between a 717 and 700. Note I'm talking platform staff, not drivers!

Ha,kool!

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