I will be sorry to see them go. The most comfortable trains on the network (IMO), although unfortunately unlike the HSTs & 91s they don't have power sockets.AJP said:After Decembers 11th 1840 Leeds-Kings Cross GNER is withdrawing its 373 eurostars and being replaced by 91's with MK4 coaches.
yorkie said:I will be sorry to see them go. The most comfortable trains on the network (IMO), although unfortunately unlike the HSTs & 91s they don't have power sockets.AJP said:After Decembers 11th 1840 Leeds-Kings Cross GNER is withdrawing its 373 eurostars and being replaced by 91's with MK4 coaches.
It's also nice to have them to provide a bit of variety.
The diagrams will be swapped around quite a bit, no doubt, but it's not really true to say they're being replaced by 91s, more a case of the stock being replaced by leasing more HSTs. But the HSTs are probably more likely to work to Newcastle or Edinburgh than Leeds, I would guess, as the Leeds services tend to call at more stations.
Depends on how they worded it, and also how you look at it.AJP said:Im just going by liar magazine
They were limited to 110mph due to power supply limitations for the first year or two of operation, but that was resolved quite some time ago now.AJP said:Imo mallard sets are well comfy, eurostars deafing you because squeek so badly. The doors are often bust or just dont open. They are to long for many station and can only do 110 mph. :roll:
AJP said:liar magazine
It would, but not while there are spare HSTs.Jonathan said:Would it not make sense for GNER to take some EWS 90s on lease and some ex West Coast Mk3 and DVT sets...
yorkie said:It would, but not while there are spare HSTs.
I'm sure that the option could be considered if we get to a point where GNER want to further increase services and there are no spare HST sets. A 90 can keep to a 91 timetable on some, frequent-stations, diagrams(e.g. those that call at places like Stevenage, Newark, Retford, etc).
Chaz said:. The problem is its 110mph Stock unless you re-gear the 90s to do 125mph, I remember you telling me Yorkie that it will be easy to stick to 125mph timing (Times can be always changed thought) so it could be a viable option for GNER.
Do you call HSTs plastic? hock:1288gaje said:well it such a shame Eurostars are going being replaced by plastic
No, they're not!tubechallenger said:Err, aren't Eurostars plastic or have I missed something?
King's Cross 06.00
Stevenage 06.19
Peterborough 06.49
Grantham 07.08
Newark North Gate 07.20
Retford 07.35
Doncaster 07.51
Wakefield Westgate 08.10
Leeds 08.34
Jonathan said:yorkie said:It would, but not while there are spare HSTs.
I'm sure that the option could be considered if we get to a point where GNER want to further increase services and there are no spare HST sets. A 90 can keep to a 91 timetable on some, frequent-stations, diagrams(e.g. those that call at places like Stevenage, Newark, Retford, etc).
But it is a bit pointless running HSTs under the wires for all of journey after BR spending so much to electricfy the line 15 years ago...