Former Grand Central HSTs now with EMT

[sd0733]

Would a possibility be for some trailers to end up temporarily with other operators such as XC or GW to allow more of their own coaches to go for power door fitting etc.
Maybe the power cars could go to Scotland for a start to me made on driver training if theres not too many differences between the buffer power cars and the ones they'll get obviously.
Probably a million and one technical reasons why it cant happen though!

 

[route:oxford]

If structural integrity is an issue then they'll have been withdrawn already, even if that means services cannot run.

That's why I'm saying "salami". Slice, by slice, by slice.

With Scotrail HSTs being 4 or 5 coaches long, there are going to be around 4-5 coaches spare from each conversion.

If you are spending £lots on the conversion, you are only going to work with the best examples of the fleet that will withstand another 15 years of intensive use in some of the harshest weather conditions of the UK.

So at the basic level, you are going to have prime & sub-prime coaches.

There is always the worst coach in the batch, when it goes to the scrappy there is the next worst coach in the batch.

 

[HSTEd]

Remember that they aren't good to remain in service past-2020 without expensive PRM mods. It's that, rather than any considerations about structural integrity, that will lead to their demise I imagine.

PRM mods only exist because of ink on a page.

The entire remaining fleet of unrebuilt Mark 3s would likely be derogated en-masse. Or one coach in each rake would be rebuilt to provide the disability facilities etc.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

How far off meeting the PRM regs are the coaches with the wheelchair space(s) and disabled bogs as they currently stand?

 

[Mordac]

How far off meeting the PRM regs are the coaches with the wheelchair space(s) and disabled bogs as they currently stand?

The door mods are the big issue I believe.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

The door mods are the big issue I believe.

Do they need all four external doors doing or just the ones the same end as the wheelchairs space(s) and disabled bog?

 

[D365]

Do they need all four external doors doing or just the ones the same end as the wheelchairs space(s) and disabled bog?

Well they need to get rid of the slam doors so...

 

[HSTEd]

Well they need to get rid of the slam doors so...

The derogation for retaining slam doors on regular doors would attractive much less backlash than doing anything that avoids disability access.....

 

[43096]

Well they need to get rid of the slam doors so...

Do they? Why says?

 

[Roast Veg]

Do they need all four external doors doing or just the ones the same end as the wheelchairs space(s) and disabled bog?

All doors must be compliant, remember that restricted mobility includes those with sensory impairments or learning difficulties as well as physical handicaps.

 

[LowLevel]

Just to bump this up I believe the GC HST sets have just about found another home for a few years but it's not been announced officially yet so I'm not going to say where - watch this space!

 

[WideRanger]

Just to bump this up I believe the GC HST sets have just about found another home for a few years but it's not been announced officially yet so I'm not going to say where - watch this space!

Am I reading too much by cross-referencing which lines you work on...?

 

[LowLevel]

Am I reading too much by cross-referencing which lines you work on...?

Read what you like into whatever you like, I'm saying nothing but I doubt very much that I'll be working on them!

 

[yorksrob]

Well, its excellent news if they're moving on to somewhere else for passenger usage

Sadly, I expect it'll be nowhere near Yorkshire. We seem to be fixated on bi-modes.

 

[MatthewRead]

Just to bump this up I believe the GC HST sets have just about found another home for a few years but it's not been announced officially yet so I'm not going to say where - watch this space!

Where will that be????

 

[Darandio]

Where will that be????

Did you read the post you have quoted? :-?

 

[Hairy Bear]

Dirty rumours about them coming to us.........or is it ?.
H.S.T.' forever !!!, bring it on.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Dirty rumours about them coming to us.........or is it ?.
H.S.T.' forever !!!, bring it on.

Only if you take the smelly MTUs out and put more VP185s in Just kidding.

Actually if it is true, great news...

 

[scruffer04]

Dirty rumours about them coming to us.........or is it ?.
H.S.T.' forever !!!, bring it on.

+1

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[Please Explain]

Dirty rumours about them coming to us.........or is it ?.
H.S.T.' forever !!!, bring it on.

I also heard that EMT are "getting more hsts apparently" dunno if it's the GC sets but if so then awesome. Hopefully will keep the chess board tables too!

 

[yorksrob]

I also heard that EMT are "getting more hsts apparently" dunno if it's the GC sets but if so then awesome. Hopefully will keep the chess board tables too!

Well, that's certainly good news for the time being ! (if correct)

 

[CosherB]

I also heard that EMT are "getting more hsts apparently" dunno if it's the GC sets but if so then awesome. Hopefully will keep the chess board tables too!

EMT certainly seems to be the 'warmest' rumour so far!

 

[XCTurbostar]

Here was me hoping for AXC. Still, EMT look after theirs..

If this was to happen, what use would EMT have for them?

Thanks,
Ross

 

[Johnnie2Sheds]

Here was me hoping for AXC. Still, EMT look after theirs..

If this was to happen, what use would EMT have for them?

Thanks,
Ross

Tip the rancid Meridians into the Trent and run their trains with them?

 

[Mordac]

Here was me hoping for AXC. Still, EMT look after theirs..

If this was to happen, what use would EMT have for them?

Thanks,
Ross

Use them while the others go for PRM mods, maybe?

 

[XCTurbostar]

Use them while the others go for PRM mods, maybe?

So hand them back after they've been completed? Have the PRM mods got to go ahead with the EMT HSTs?

Thanks,
Ross

 

[Roast Veg]

The EMT HSTs are the worst offenders with regards to 2020 compliance - they still have a lot of the original interior. EMT do not have much by way of spare 43s, since their spares are almost always out with VTEC. The GC sets would be a welcome addition.

 

[Mordac]

So hand them back after they've been completed? Have the PRM mods got to go ahead with the EMT HSTs?

Thanks,
Ross

That's what I was suggesting, but it's only conjecture on my part. I've seen conflicting information/rumours online about whether they are to have PRM mods or not.

 

[PudseyBearHST]

When are the last of the class 180s going from GWR?

 

[MCR247]

Are Grand Central not taking all of them?