Grant Shapps Staying

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  1. GRALISTAIR

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  3. Busaholic

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    Yes, his tongue is sufficiently long.
     
  4. GRALISTAIR

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    In fairness, I hate it that there is a whole succession of SoS Transport. Just as they are getting their feet under the table and starting to understand stuff and get control of the civil servants, they get moved. Having said that Grayling was in the post about 3 years iirc.
     
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    Remember we could have Grayling back! Apologies I know it's not yet April!
     
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    that is a shame as he is useless. However he is no threat to the PM and is suitable obsequious in the presence of the great man. It really is the ministry of none of the talents
     
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    Problem is there are not many engineers that go into politics. It needs someone who has a reasonable knowledge of engineering so does not get BS'd by the DafT civil servants.
     
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    Yes, at least we've not got Grayling back.
     
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    No it doesn't. It needs someone of at least moderate intelligence, sensible management experience, moral fibre and character. You don't need to be an expert. You need to be an executive, able to delegate, set strategy, define targets, take accountability and most importantly win funding from the exchequer.
     
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    Well I would argue with those attributes Grayling was probably better than Shapps.
     
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    agreed - however an empty waste paper bin is better than both of them!
     
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    I am trying not to laugh out loud but that seems a tad harsh!
     
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    I too am also just glad we’re rid of Chris Grayling. Not that I’m a fan of Shapps either of course, for awarding the WCP to First despite the disqualification of Stagecoach being IMHO ridiculously unjust.
     
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    There's been a switch lower down in the DfT, with Andrew Stephenson (Pendle MP) replacing Nus Ghani who was looking after HS2.
    Boris did promise a dedicated minister for HS2 - maybe it's him.
    The Stephensons have history over building Euston-Birmingham railways.
     
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    Sorry to be pedantic, and I have little time for Tories with a dodgy past, but every time we have a thread about him we go all schnapps and Schweppes.

    Shapps. His name is Shapps. The summit with a 'ps' at the end.
     
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    Sorry - just edited everything as best as I could including the title.
     
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    I feel that Grant Schnapps would be more palatable...
     
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    Schank you
     
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    Grant Shap would be appropriate, as he has a mountain to climb.
     
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    Being the tallest dwarf is nothing to brag about
     
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    Shapps' main obsession is General Aviation (private planes) rather than railways. That's why he wanted to stay in the job.
     
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    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/a-new-chapter-for-northern-transport

    New on DfT website, speech from Grant Shapps
    Covers various modes, but Railways section reads :

     
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    Given the delays to Castlefield corridor upgrades, I'd definitely say that the description is accurate.
     
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    Thank you for providing that link. I'm pleased to see he's emphasising what a lot of railway enthusiasts don't want to hear: that far more journeys are made by bus than by train. I'm also pleased that he realises that improvements to all forms of transport are necessary. One warning bell ringing in my head is about the intention to install "mini Hollands." We've had those imposed on us in London, and they increase road congestion and make travelling by bus far more problematical. I advise people in the North to look that gift horse in the mouth hard and sceptically.
     
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    So having mentioned High Speed North in the introduction and saying he would go into more detail later, he does no such thing.
    "Later" must mean much later. ;)
     
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    But nothing in the interim. HS2 is a decade to 15 years away depending upon which stage one refers to. MML, TPE Wiring and other schemes (list as you please) that could release capacity in the meantime
     
  27. LNW-GW Joint

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    Grant Shapps on R5 Live this morning, describing London Overground as the template for future passenger rail contracts (ie the concession model).
    Rather spoilt by trying to say that this would bring the services back under public control (makes you wonder who dreamt up the franchise specs and let the contracts?).
    He also said the Transpennine £3 billion upgrade would be "on his desk shortly" for approval, and it "would be done".
     
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    What does Shant Grapps want to do to GA?
     
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    Well I just hope - lets see if - he walks the walk and doesn’t just talk the talk.
     
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    Really? I didn't realise the plans were sufficiently advanced to be able to land on his desk soon for approval? Are they?
     

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