reddragon
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Stored - 313.024-25,28,43,53,56 (6)
Any more stored?
Any more stored?
062/063Anyone know which 313s are on tonights drag?
062/063
Just saw it go through St Neots, it was tailing at 700 so it passed slow, 313063 seemed to have been vandalised badly.
Which is not the headcode!With just over half an hour before it's timed start RTT is still showing it as un-activated and FRGT rather than a designation.... makes me wonder if it will run ?
Just been allocated
522T
5Q25 if anyone requires.Which is not the headcode!
Which is not the headcode!
5Q25 if anyone requires.
I noted the 313s to Newpoet Docks being towed through Gospel Oak yesterday. Great trains in their time..but in a sad condition now. Wont be sorry to see them go.Class 313 Scrap Moves up to 24/06/19:
Monday 8th April 5Q56 10+52 Hornsey to Newport Docks 57312 & 313026
Tuesday 9th April 5Q25 19+24 Hornsey to CF Booths 57312 & 313055
Thursday 11th April 5Q54 10+18 Hornsey to Kingsbury 57312 & 313050
Monday 3rd June 5Q56 10+52 Hornsey to Newport Docks 57312 & 313123/313031
Monday 10th June 5Q78 10+52 Hornsey to Newport Docks 57312 & 313027/313029
Monday 17th June 5Q78 10+52 Hornsey to Newport Docks 57312 & 313018/313046
Thursday 20th June 5Q25 19+24 Horney to CF Booths 37884 & 313062/313063
Monday 24th June 5Q78 11+30 Hornsey to Newport Docks 57312 & 313028/313043
Look for STP working from Hornsey EMUD (XHE) on realtime trains. Usually go on Mondays and Thursdays.Any way to tell which units/ when they will be dragged, would like to see some pass by on there last trip.
When the Southern's 313's were going for overhaul, the shoes were cable tied up, and all MCB's were tripped with the exception for the brake control MCB's IIRC. This enabled the brake continuity wire to still work as a brake continuity wire and the unit's batteries didn't go flat (even though units were aux'd off). I imagine it's the same sort of process for the scrap haulage.Is there much in the way of prep done before a tow? Or is it just, couple up, brakes off and away we go? Presumably there some mechanism to drop the pantograph and lift the shoe? I imagine that’s a manual process?
Always liked the 313. I Remember them coming through Huntingdon on delivery when I was at school...
The southern ones are dire
No air con in this heat and no choice of seats. The seats all face one another which encourages people to put feet on seats. The great northern ones have a comfier seat.
Main issue is they are only three coaches. They have now been on the west coastway for nearly a decade
I avoid them. If going to Brighton wait for an ex Southampton even though they stop at a few more stations
Even if none of the GN 313s go there, I expect all the parts that still work will be coming off and being used to maintain the remaining Southern units. Should keep them going for longer than they'll remain in service.
Some of the GN 313s weren't in bad shape and had been given various upgrades. I can see that many of the bodyside lights are much brighter on some than others, and the interior lighting was switched to retro-fit LED tubes. I don't know if they'd remain compatible with the Southern units (did they get different light fittings after the refurb?).
Are Southern likely to take the odd GN 313 for expansion, cover or spares? or can we safely say all 44 GN examples will be sent straight to scrap?
Hasn’t there already been spares recovery from other similar units that have already been to Eastleigh for that purpose, such as SE 508s and at least one 314?I keep hearing about a couple of Units for Christmas Tree's but not heard anything concrete! Spare are needed; especially seeing as a lot of stuff isn't made anymore. SN 313's got LED Lighting Tubes in their DDA Mods.
Hasn’t there already been spares recovery from other similar units that have already been to Eastleigh for that purpose, such as SE 508s and at least one 314?
It would be interesting to know exactly what parts SN might need that could only come off a dual voltage 313?
it's not that the parts would only be acceptable if they came off a DV 313, just that they have them available and can get the specific components required and nothing extra or missing. I remember once there was a door pocket that was destroyed by vandalism, it would have been great to just rob the whole door pocket off an old unit, but because there weren't any available an interesting repair had to be made with ply... I know that Traction motors were in short stock (I think some of the Southern stock of traction motors came from a heritage railway somewhere) but realistically these would probably have to be removed at final disassembly location. Likewise Compressors and Motor-Alternators aren't in massive supply generally. A lot of the stock shortage is simply due to a lack of it in the stock rotation system. Yes a lot of these components are probably shared with other units, but that doesn't make sourcing the components any easier necessarily?Hasn’t there already been spares recovery from other similar units that have already been to Eastleigh for that purpose, such as SE 508s and at least one 314?
It would be interesting to know exactly what parts SN might need that could only come off a dual voltage 313?
That’s all I was thinking, hence posing it as a question. BR era stock must have loads of common components after all.it's not that the parts would only be acceptable if they came off a DV 313, just that they have them available and can get the specific components required and nothing extra or missing. I remember once there was a door pocket that was destroyed by vandalism, it would have been great to just rob the whole door pocket off an old unit, but because there weren't any available an interesting repair had to be made with ply... I know that Traction motors were in short stock (I think some of the Southern stock of traction motors came from a heritage railway somewhere) but realistically these would probably have to be removed at final disassembly location. Likewise Compressors and Motor-Alternators aren't in massive supply generally. A lot of the stock shortage is simply due to a lack of it in the stock rotation system. Yes a lot of these components are probably shared with other units, but that doesn't make sourcing the components any easier necessarily?