Great Northern 313 Withdrawals

[trainmania100]

More 313s for total destruction on Monday
https://live.rail-record.co.uk/rail/liverail/train/614570/01/07/19

Train 5Q78 runs MO from 01/07/19 to 01/07/19
Type STP Diesel Loco Timed at 075mph
Sector 7 Train service code 22661600

Hornsey E.M.U.D. 1052
Finsbury Park 1057
Holloway Sth. Jn. 1101
Copenhagen Junction 1105
York Way North Jn 1107
Camden Road Central Jn 1110
Camden Road Jn 1111
Gospel Oak 1115
Hampstead Heath 1117
West Hampstead 1121
Kensal Green Jn 1128
Willesden Jn. High Level 1130
Acton Wells Jn 1132
Acton Main Line 1135
Acton West 1136
Southall 1143
Heathrow Airport Jn 1148
Slough 1202
Maidenhead 1208
Twyford 1216
Kennet Bridge Jn 1221
Reading 1224-1228
Reading West Jn 1232
Tilehurst East Jn. 1236
Goring & Streatley 1241
Didcot East Jn 1250
Didcot Parkway 1250
Foxhall Jn 1252
Milton Junction 1254
Steventon 1256-1313
Wantage Road 1318
Challow 1320
Uffington (Oxfordshire) 1322
Swindon 1333
Wootton Bassett Jn 1338
Hullavington 1351-1431
Westerleigh Jn 1443
Bristol Parkway 1449
Patchway 1452
Pilning 1457
Severn Tunnel East 1502
Severn Tunnel West 1507
Severn Tunnel Jn 1508
Llanwern West Jn 1522
Maindee West Jn 1528
Newport (South Wales) 1529
Alexandra Dock Jn. T.C. 1533
Newport Docks (Simsgroup) 1553

 

[daniel1234321]

Ah you beat me to it. Same schedule on RTT: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G45087/2019/06/29/advanced

 

[Class315]

37884 is making its way from Leicester to Hornsey EMUD working as 0E55 to ultimately take away 313054 + 036 which spent the weekend in the sheds at Hornsey being decommissioned before embarking on their last journey to Newport as 5Q78.

036 + 054 were both in passenger service on Friday.

 

[reddragon]

So now current status is: -

Scrapped - 313.018,23,26-29,31,36,43,46,50,54-5,62-3 (15)
Stored - 313.024-25,53,56 (4) - surely must be more now?
Southern - 313.001-17,19-20 (19)
NR - 313.021 (1)
GN - 313.022,30,32-5,37-42,44-45,47-49,51-52,57-61,64 (25)

At 49 remaining for the first time since 1976 the 313 is no longer the most common PEP, with the class 315 now at the top

 

[Class315]

So now current status is: -

Scrapped - 313.018,23,26-29,31,36,43,46,50,54-5,62-3 (15)
Stored - 313.024-25,53,56 (4) - surely must be more now?
Southern - 313.001-17,19-20 (19)
NR - 313.021 (1)
GN - 313.022,30,32-5,37-42,44-45,47-49,51-52,57-61,64 (25)

At 49 remaining for the first time since 1976 the 313 is no longer the most common PEP, with the class 315 now at the top

As it stands at 18:47, on the 1/07/2019.
All the 313's you've listed remain stored at Hornsey.
313024 stands alone on 18 Road, whilst 313053 is coupled to 025. Whilst 056 remains uncoupled all stood on 19 road at Hornsey.

GN have 122 & have scrapped 123.

 

[reddragon]

As it stands at 18:47, on the 1/07/2019.
All the 313's you've listed remain stored at Hornsey.
313024 stands alone on 18 Road, whilst 313053 is coupled to 025. Whilst 056 remains uncoupled all stood on 19 road at Hornsey.

GN have 122 & have scrapped 123.

When did 22 go, I must have missed it.

 

[Class315]

When did 22 go, I must have missed it.

The only /1 unit to leave thus far is 313123. 122 is paired with 058 currently working 2J77 22:35 Watton-at-stone - London Moorgate Service.

 

[rogercov]

According to RTT something went from Hornsey to Brighton early on Monday. Could this have been a scrapped 313 to be used for spares?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02312/2019/07/01/advanced

 

[Class315]

According to RTT something went from Hornsey to Brighton early on Monday. Could this have been a scrapped 313 to be used for spares?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02312/2019/07/01/advanced

Sorry to disappoint but in actual fact, it was Gatwick Express Class 387222 returning back to Lovers Walk, Haven't been keeping up with the specific units numbers that have come over in the past but a vast majority of them have come over for a weekend for treatment on the wheel lathe.

 

[rogercov]

Sorry to disappoint but in actual fact, it was Gatwick Express Class 387222 returning back to Lovers Walk, Haven't been keeping up with the specific units numbers that have come over in the past but a vast majority of them have come over for a weekend for treatment on the wheel lathe.

Thanks for the info.

 

[trainmania100]

Another one in the bin this coming Monday
https://live.rail-record.co.uk/rail/liverail/train/654671/08/07/19

 

[Class315]

313025 & 053 have gone for scrap this morning.

 

[reddragon]

So now current status is: -

Scrapped - 313.018,23,25-29,31,36,43,46,50,53-5,62-3 (17)
Stored - 313.024,56 (2)
Southern - 313.001-17,19-20 (19)
NR - 313.021 (1)
GN - 313.022,30,32-5,37-42,44-45,47-49,51-52,57-61,64 (25)

 

[WesternLancer]

apols for total unfamiliarity with these units current service patterns, but what is the longest run you can do on one now, in order to have a decent run before they end. Would it be Moorgate to Welwyn GC?

In all their years service I've never been on one for longer than Moorgate to Finsbury Park so it would be nice to go on a full run.

With luck I could still get one with pretty original interior layout too, unless they have all gone?

 

[SteveOfTheStow]

Moorgate to Stevenage via Hertford North would be the longest run I think, but they only do that on weekends now (1tph). The longest weekday journey is Moorgate to Watton-at-Stone I think at almost 25 miles, also via Hertford North (2tph).
But if it's top speed you're after, the Welwyn branch may offer more opportunity. Someone more informed than I could probably chime in.

 

[WesternLancer]

Moorgate to Stevenage via Hertford North would be the longest run I think, but they only do that on weekends now (1tph). The longest weekday journey is Moorgate to Watton-at-Stone I think at almost 25 miles, also via Hertford North (2tph).
But if it's top speed you're after, the Welwyn branch may offer more opportunity. Someone more informed than I could probably chime in.

Thanks - appreciate that helpful info!

 

[bramling]

Moorgate to Stevenage via Hertford North would be the longest run I think, but they only do that on weekends now (1tph). The longest weekday journey is Moorgate to Watton-at-Stone I think at almost 25 miles, also via Hertford North (2tph).
But if it's top speed you're after, the Welwyn branch may offer more opportunity. Someone more informed than I could probably chime in.

Sounds about right. There’s a handful of trips from and to Stevenage at the start and end of service, although some or all of these may be 717s by now.

 

[Ladder23]

Hopefully try get a ride on 61 before its gone, this was the first one I went on, would be nice to go on for a final trip.

 

[158747]

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37884 with 313053 and 313025 passing Alderton (between Swindon and Bristol Parkway) today en route Hornsey - Newport Docks.

 

[Ladder23]

is there contracts in place to not allow sims to sell parts of the trains.

 

[WesternLancer]

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37884 with 313053 and 313025 passing Alderton (between Swindon and Bristol Parkway) today en route Hornsey - Newport Docks.

Nice - so 1950s/60s tech hauling 70s tech. It's all done great service.

 

[Peter C]

It's sad that these units are being scrapped. I would love for another TOC to take them on, but that just isn't viable, is it?

-Peter

 

[class387]

apols for total unfamiliarity with these units current service patterns, but what is the longest run you can do on one now, in order to have a decent run before they end. Would it be Moorgate to Welwyn GC?

In all their years service I've never been on one for longer than Moorgate to Finsbury Park so it would be nice to go on a full run.

With luck I could still get one with pretty original interior layout too, unless they have all gone?

Had 313134 this morning with original seats, so there's at least one left (there were only three to begin with).

 

[bramling]

It's sad that these units are being scrapped. I would love for another TOC to take them on, but that just isn't viable, is it?

-Peter

For those who like them, thankfully there’s the Southern units.

At the end of the day all these family of units are now at 40 years, so it’s understandable they’ve reached the end of the line. I keep a 20-year-old car running, still doing more or less the job it was doing when new, and it’s by no means an easy task, nor of course cheap - there’s no way I’d do it if it was purely an economic decision rather than partly sentimental (and also because it simply drives *so much* better than the modern equivalent). In the last year alone I’ve spent in excess of £3k keeping it going - from an economic point of view that borders on madness!

For some reason the GN 313s are a fixture which somehow seem rather timeless - perhaps because unlike some trains they’ve stayed put on the same route throughout their long life. I for one am sad to see them go.

 

[daniel1234321]

Trains go to Stevenage on weekdays but only in the late evenings. Not sure if that helps but

Had 313134 this morning with original seats, so there's at least one left (there were only three to begin with).

That is the only one with original seats left, 123 was scrapped on 3 June and was the other unit with original seats (unless there is another one)

 

[D1012]

Trains go to Stevenage on weekdays but only in the late evenings. Not sure if that helps but

That is the only one with original seats left, 123 was scrapped on 3 June and was the other unit with original seats (unless there is another one)

Don't forget 313122, another ex Silverlink Metro.

 

[andystock22]

It's sad that these units are being scrapped. I would love for another TOC to take them on, but that just isn't viable, is it?

-Peter

No other TOC would want them. They are in extremely poor condition inside and out.

 

[daniel1234321]

Don't forget 313122, another ex Silverlink Metro.

Ah yes, 122 and 134 then must be the only two left with original seating then. Both still in service as far as I know.

 

[D1012]

Ah yes, 122 and 124 then must be the only two left with original seating then. Both still in service as far as I know.

Slight typo, 122 and 134 still in service. I've seen them both today.

 

[WesternLancer]

Slight typo, 122 and 134 still in service. I've seen them both today.

isn't one earmarked by NRM - maybe a Southern one, you'd think they would want the orig seats for a future restoration of the unit or carriage they have earmarked ?