Great Northern Class 700 diagrams?

[387star]

Can confirm that
1T18 1114 London Kings Cross to Ely
Was not a 700. Perhaps the first time I've been disappointed to see a 365. Bit of a waste of £3 but there you go. I'll have another shot when they're a bit more confirmed!

Are you sane haha

 

[JonathanH]

Can confirm that
1T18 1114 London Kings Cross to Ely
Was not a 700. Perhaps the first time I've been disappointed to see a 365. Bit of a waste of £3 but there you go. I'll have another shot when they're a bit more confirmed!

Diagrams posted elsewhere suggest that this working was never intended to be a 700 today.

 

[Failed Unit]

Seems like many of the services on post 546 are 700s and post 552 May be the other way around. I cover a few of these over the coming weeks so will know for sure.

 

[APUK002]

Seems like many of the services on post 546 are 700s and post 552 May be the other way around. I cover a few of these over the coming weeks so will know for sure.

yes,2R41-1001 was 700050 this morning

 

[Failed Unit]

The 1722 London - Cambridge was one this evening so the extended platforms will see some use after Royston. Looks like for those wanting to use / avoid the first post 546 are now and the other is from late March.

 

[Skimble19]

Today’s 700s were slightly different to what they will be from tomorrow. Expect various changes from now until May though.

 

[Failed Unit]

Today’s 700s were slightly different to what they will be from tomorrow. Expect various changes from now until May though.

(Un)lucky dip.

 

[APUK002]

Today’s 700s were slightly different to what they will be from tomorrow. Expect various changes from now until May though.

What’s this mean exactly then?

 

[jon0844]

Some of the 700s were running a little too fast today, arriving 3-4 minutes early at some stations! I heard one driver managed to leave 2 or 3 minutes early by mistake, so may well be getting a telling off!

Boarding times are faster but people are still only using a fraction of the doors available and not knowing to walk through. It took a while on Thameslink for passenger behaviour to change, so when it does it looks like things may not be as bad as feared.

(I realise I've totally jinxed things now!)

 

[APUK002]

Lol I see, they are a lot faster(acceleration wise),are diagrams the same for now until May?

 

[Failed Unit]

Some of the 700s were running a little too fast today, arriving 3-4 minutes early at some stations! I heard one driver managed to leave 2 or 3 minutes early by mistake, so may well be getting a telling off!

Boarding times are faster but people are still only using a fraction of the doors available and not knowing to walk through. It took a while on Thameslink for passenger behaviour to change, so when it does it looks like things may not be as bad as feared.

(I realise I've totally jinxed things now!)

I noticed more people walking between coaches because they could see. Hopefully they will put on the monitors where first class is so people don’t stand in the middle.

Even I will need to work out where to stand. On older trains front door was gaurenteed at seat at Finsbury Park. I guess I will never get a seat again at Finsbury Park. So just need to work out where to stand in comfort use kings cross or get another train.

 

[Hadders]

Lol I see, they are a lot faster(acceleration wise),are diagrams the same for now until May?

The journey times won't be shorter. They'll use the time saved for additional dwell time at stations.

 

[APUK002]

I noticed more people walking between coaches because they could see. Hopefully they will put on the monitors where first class is so people don’t stand in the middle.

Even I will need to work out where to stand. On older trains front door was gaurenteed at seat at Finsbury Park. I guess I will never get a seat again at Finsbury Park. So just need to work out where to stand in comfort use kings cross or get another train.

1st class is in unified place on 700’s,has clear signage already(yellow band/strip and window sign) ,see on Flickr by searching for ‘class 700 layout’,great pics of train layout there.

 

[Failed Unit]

1st class is in unified place kpon 700’s,has clear signage already(yellow band/strip and window sign) ,see on Flickr by searching for ‘class 700 layout’,great pics of train layout there

It does. But the casual user on the platform won’t know which type of train will turn up. It could be 2x 365, 2x 387 or a 700.

If they stand in the position of coach 5 that is fine for the 365 or 387s but not the 700. Likewise standard passengers trying to avoid it may need to move last minute when they see the headlights.

 

[Failed Unit]

The journey times won't be shorter. They'll use the time saved for additional dwell time at stations.

Then getting longer from May because of the fact they are stuck on the slow lines. (At least for Welwyn and Hatfield)

 

[jon0844]

Today I've seen first class at the back with barely anyone in it. The fact there are no announcements and the only place to see the 'you can sit here' message is if you're already sat there might have something to do with it.

While the feedback for the 12 car 700s may have been bad, given their use in the peak, the feedback from people on the 700s in the daytime have all been of the 'wow' and 'impressive' type.

Having 8 car trains on services serving Meldreth and Shepreth will hopefully prove popular.

 

[APUK002]

Um,the 700’s have a different front view,headlights brighter,and the fact it says Thameslink on coaches is a bit obvious if unit is a 700!

 

[Failed Unit]

Um,the 700’s have a different front view,headlights brighter,and the fact it says Thameslink on coaches is a bit obvious if unit is a 700!

They do. But how quickly can you decide this on route on a crowded platform. Best to know before it shows up.

 

[Failed Unit]

Today I've seen first class at the back with barely anyone in it. The fact there are no announcements and the only place to see the 'you can sit here' message is if you're already sat there might have something to do with it.

While the feedback for the 12 car 700s may have been bad, given their use in the peak, the feedback from people on the 700s in the daytime have all been of the 'wow' and 'impressive' type.

Having 8 car trains on services serving Meldreth and Shepreth will hopefully prove popular.

Feedback on the 1722 isn’t positive as you would expect on a peak service with less seats.

 

[APUK002]

They do. But how quickly can you decide this on route on a crowded platform. Best to know before it shows up.

Unless they are o this forumn/social media,they can’t know unit b4hand,unless have been on&seen specific train Service themselves.

 

[Failed Unit]

Unless they are o this forumn/social media,they can’t know unit b4hand,unless have been on&seen specific train Service themselves.

Hence why I said it would be useful to put the position of first class on the station monitors.

 

[Steve Harris]

1st class is in unified place kpon 700’s,has clear signage already(yellow band/strip and window sign) ,see on Flickr by searching for ‘class 700 layout’,great pics of train layout there

And in English please ??

 

[JonathanH]

Today I've seen first class at the back with barely anyone in it. The fact there are no announcements and the only place to see the 'you can sit here' message is if you're already sat there might have something to do with it.

Does it really matter that first class at the back has no one in it (other than on a very full train)? Just because it is declassified doesn't mean that all of the people on the train should go there.

I rode on two fairly lightly loaded class 700 services today (1934 Kings Cross to Letchworth between Finsbury Park and Welwyn North) and (2016 Peterborough to Kings Cross between Sandy and Stevenage). I didn't feel that I had to sit in the declassified first class area to make the journey tolerable.

I note that the information displays were showing some additional information on these, firstly a clock at various points and also a screen telling you which coach you were in (eg coach 1 of 8).

 

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[jon0844]

Does it really matter that first class at the back has no one in it (other than on a very full train)? Just because it is declassified doesn't mean that all of the people on the train should go there.

I rode on two fairly lightly loaded class 700 services today (1934 Kings Cross to Letchworth between Finsbury Park and Welwyn North) and (2016 Peterborough to Kings Cross between Sandy and Stevenage). I didn't feel that I had to sit in the declassified first class area to make the journey tolerable.

I note that the information displays were showing some additional information on these, firstly a clock at various points and also a screen telling you which coach you were in (eg coach 1 of 8).

Of course not everyone should go to first class but my point is word hasn't got round yet.

 

[class387]

So what diagrams are the 700s doing today? Are they sticking to the ones posted?

 

[Class315]

This morning. 20/02.

Today unit diagram HE453 is covered by a 700, (700050). Yesterday this diagram was still covered by 2x365's.
1C01 0514 CBG - KGX
2P02 0634 KGX-PBO
1P51 0816 PBO - KGX
5E40 0946 KGX - XHE (Hornsey Depot).

Unit Diagram HE454 is 7000224
1P41 0510 PBO-KGX
3R47 0638 KGX-RYS
1R47 0732 RYS-KGX
2P06 0834 KGX-PBO
2P45 1018 PBO-KGX


Unit Diagram HE455 is 700051
2P21 0410 PBO-KGX
2C02 0604 KGX-CBG
1C49 0756 CBG-KGX
5E36 0918 KGX-XHE

Unit diagram HE457 is 700049
5P09 0655 Peterborough Spital Sidings - Peterborough
1P09 0726 PBO-KGX
3R41 08:43 KGX - Letchworth A/D Line
2R41 10:01 LET - KGX
1P50 10:28 KGX - PBO
1P61 11:51 PBO - KGX
1P54 13:22 KGX-PBO
1P67 1447 PBO-KGX

 

[class387]

This morning. 20/02.

Today unit diagram HE453 is covered by a 700, (700050). Yesterday this diagram was still covered by 2x365's.
1C01 0514 CBG - KGX
2P02 0634 KGX-PBO
1P51 0816 PBO - KGX
5E40 0946 KGX - XHE (Hornsey Depot).

Unit Diagram HE454 is 7000224
1P41 0510 PBO-KGX
3R47 0638 KGX-RYS
1R47 0732 RYS-KGX
2P06 0834 KGX-PBO
2P45 1018 PBO-KGX


Unit Diagram HE455 is 700051
2P21 0410 PBO-KGX
2C02 0604 KGX-CBG
1C49 0756 CBG-KGX
5E36 0918 KGX-XHE

Unit diagram HE457 is 700049
5P09 0655 Peterborough Spital Sidings - Peterborough
1P09 0726 PBO-KGX
3R41 08:43 KGX - Letchworth A/D Line
2R41 10:01 LET - KGX
1P50 10:28 KGX - PBO
1P61 11:51 PBO - KGX
1P54 13:22 KGX-PBO
1P67 1447 PBO-KGX

Thanks. Nothing in the afternoon?

 

[APUK002]

Thanks. Nothing in the afternoon?

These diagrams ,I presume are in addition to the 1 in post#552?

 

[Class315]

There are, I will just compile a list of trains leaving Kings Cross from let's say 12:30 to end of service.

2P14 1234 KGX-PBO
1P56 1422 KGX-PBO
2T22 1605 KGX-Cambridge North
1R38 1616 KGX-RYS
1P64 1P70 KGX-PBO
2C28 1722 KGX-CBG
1P70 1849 KGX-PBO
2R38 1934 KGX-LET
1P80 2122 KGX-PBO
1P32 2207 KGX-PBO
2P58 0034 KGX-PBO