Great Northern Class 700 diagrams?

[APUK002]

There are due to be 700's working this Sunday 25th with all Mainline GN services diverted the Hertford Loop. I forgot to take down the details earlier inclusive of carriage workings. If someone else doesn't beat me too it. I'll pass on the information when i return to work in the morning.

700 working on GN weekends, diagrams plz?

 

[Ianno87]

It's not booked 365, that's the timing load not the booked traction

If it were a 365, it wouldn't get very far at all past City Thameslink, especially with that gradient...

Would guess it's using 365 SRTs north of St Pancras/Belle Isle/Finsbury Pk as the 700 SRTs may not all be 'active' in the train planning software until May. What is the northbound run showing as?

 

[LA50041]

If it were a 365, it wouldn't get very far at all past City Thameslink, especially with that gradient...

Would guess it's using 365 SRTs north of St Pancras/Belle Isle/Finsbury Pk as the 700 SRTs may not all be 'active' in the train planning software until May. What is the northbound run showing as?

Class 319

 

[Class315]

Class 700 Introduction on Sunday 25th February 2018.

There are 700's scheduled to enter service on a Sunday for the first time ever on the GN tomorrow, Please be advised that they maybe subject to change and all units are scheduled to be Reduced Length Units (RLU) and to traverse the Hertford Loop in passenger service.

Diagram Number 451.

1730 3P06 XHE-KGX
1800 1P06 KGX-PBO
1946 1P79 PBO-KGX
2138 1C80 KGX-CBG
On arrival at CBG forms 5C80 into the sidings.
2300 5C80 CBG-XCA

Diagram Number 452

0834 5P53 PBO SPITAL Sidings- PBO
0846 1P53 PBO-KGX
1038 1C50 KGX-CBG
1228 1C61 CBG-KGX
1408 1P56 KGX-PBO
1546 1P69 PBO-KGX
1738 1C66 KGX-CBG
1928 1C77 CBG-KGX
2108 1P78 KGX-PBO
2301 1P65 PBO-KGX
0040 2P58 KGX-PBO**
0218 5P58 PBO-PBO SPITAL Sidings.

Diagram Number 453

0932 5P57 PBO SPITAL Sidings - PBO
0944 1P57 PBO-KGX
1138 1C52 KGX CBG
1328 1C63 CBG-KGX
1508 1P58 KGX-PBO
1646 1P71 PBO-KGX
1838 1C70 KGX-CBG
2028 1C79 CBG-KGX
2222 1P80 KGX-PBO
2359 5P80 PBO-PBO SPITAL Sidings


Please remember that all Long distance services are diverted via the Hertford Loop as a result of planned engineering works hence the amended departure times.

Key.

KGX = King's Cross
CBG = Cambridge
PBO = Peterborough
XCA = Cambridge Yard
XHE = Hornsey EMUD.

**
First 700 unit to stop at Alexandra Palace, to interconnect with Rail Replacements via the mainline.

 

[Class315]

Quick Update the unit due to be operating on diagram452 suffered a train fault on Spital Sidings, 1P53 was caped. 1C50 is being worked by 2x365 vice 700 RLU.

 

[APUK002]

Quick Update the unit due to be operating on diagram452 suffered a train fault on Spital Sidings, 1P53 was caped. 1C50 is being worked by 2x365 vice 700 RLU.

Just for this Sunday,next weekend any?

 

[Sunset route]

The first Horsham to Peterborough and vice versa pass each other at London Bridge.

 

[bramling]

View attachment 43224 The first Horsham to Peterborough and vice versa pass each other at London Bridge.

And, true to form, many of the trips picked up considerable late running, masked only by the massive recovery time at various locations - which the May timetable won't have. This is of course despite being only six trips and running with class 9 reporting numbers.

 

[LewisT]

Do we have any idea about Saturday diagrams and when these are likely to begin? Also, is there any increase planned for Sunday diagrams too?

 

[whoosh]

And, true to form, many of the trips picked up considerable late running, masked only by the massive recovery time at various locations - which the May timetable won't have.

True, although they will have longer turnarounds of around 25 minutes at Peterborough, as opposed to the mere 11 or so at the moment, which meant that the late running continued onto the next trip on Monday.

 

[Ianno87]

And, true to form, many of the trips picked up considerable late running, masked only by the massive recovery time at various locations - which the May timetable won't have. This is of course despite being only six trips and running with class 9 reporting numbers.

True to what form? They only started on Monday! I was on the first southbound Cambridge-Brighton.

We had an initial delay at Woolmer Green (not sure why), but then a Cambridge-Kings X slow was put out in front of us at Potters Bar. Possibly *because* we had make-up time at London Bridge, so it was better to keep the on time stopper...on time.

Then held in Canal Tunnels as we'd lost path behind a Bedford-Brighton. But no matter! The genius signaller at TBROC held that on the spur at Blackfriars Jn whilst we overtook on the middle track. End result? Them on time, us only 2 late.

 

[APUK002]

True to what form? They only started on Monday! I was on the first southbound Cambridge-Brighton.

We had an initial delay at Woolmer Green (not sure why), but then a Cambridge-Kings X slow was put out in front of us at Potters Bar. Possibly *because* we had make-up time at London Bridge, so it was better to keep the on time stopper...on time.

Then held in Canal Tunnels as we'd lost path behind a Bedford-Brighton. But no matter! The genius signaller at TBROC held that on the spur at Blackfriars Jn whilst we overtook on the middle track. End result? Them on time, us only 2 late.

Were is Blackfriars Jn,tbroc= three bridges rail operation centre,does this control the Finsbury Park to/from Brighton section?

 

[bramling]

True to what form? They only started on Monday! I was on the first southbound Cambridge-Brighton.

We had an initial delay at Woolmer Green (not sure why), but then a Cambridge-Kings X slow was put out in front of us at Potters Bar. Possibly *because* we had make-up time at London Bridge, so it was better to keep the on time stopper...on time.

Then held in Canal Tunnels as we'd lost path behind a Bedford-Brighton. But no matter! The genius signaller at TBROC held that on the spur at Blackfriars Jn whilst we overtook on the middle track. End result? Them on time, us only 2 late.

True to Thameslink form. Had it not been for recovery time there would have been a lot of imported delay. And I bet GN users were served well this evening by their services not originating on the DC network in the icy conditions.

 

[Skimpot flyer]

Two ‘preview’ services, Peterborough to Horsham (and vice-versa) passing each other at London Bridge, just now...

 

[APUK002]

View attachment 43313 Two ‘preview’ services, Peterborough to Horsham (and vice-versa) passing each other at London Bridge, just now...

Oo,great pic

 

[adamedwards]

Any extra 700s from Monday? Or is the next Great Leap Forward later in the month?

 

[APUK002]

Class 700 Introduction on Sunday 25th February 2018.

There are 700's scheduled to enter service on a Sunday for the first time ever on the GN tomorrow, Please be advised that they maybe subject to change and all units are scheduled to be Reduced Length Units (RLU) and to traverse the Hertford Loop in passenger service.

Diagram Number 451.

1730 3P06 XHE-KGX
1800 1P06 KGX-PBO
1946 1P79 PBO-KGX
2138 1C80 KGX-CBG
On arrival at CBG forms 5C80 into the sidings.
2300 5C80 CBG-XCA

Diagram Number 452

0834 5P53 PBO SPITAL Sidings- PBO
0846 1P53 PBO-KGX
1038 1C50 KGX-CBG
1228 1C61 CBG-KGX
1408 1P56 KGX-PBO
1546 1P69 PBO-KGX
1738 1C66 KGX-CBG
1928 1C77 CBG-KGX
2108 1P78 KGX-PBO
2301 1P65 PBO-KGX
0040 2P58 KGX-PBO**
0218 5P58 PBO-PBO SPITAL Sidings.

Diagram Number 453

0932 5P57 PBO SPITAL Sidings - PBO
0944 1P57 PBO-KGX
1138 1C52 KGX CBG
1328 1C63 CBG-KGX
1508 1P58 KGX-PBO
1646 1P71 PBO-KGX
1838 1C70 KGX-CBG
2028 1C79 CBG-KGX
2222 1P80 KGX-PBO
2359 5P80 PBO-PBO SPITAL Sidings


Please remember that all Long distance services are diverted via the Hertford Loop as a result of planned engineering works hence the amended departure times.

Key.

KGX = King's Cross
CBG = Cambridge
PBO = Peterborough
XCA = Cambridge Yard
XHE = Hornsey EMUD.

**
First 700 unit to stop at Alexandra Palace, to interconnect with Rail Replacements via the mainline.

Are these the diagrams the same now,I got the 1C59(1128 from Cambridge today,it was 700050

 

[jon0844]

Any extra 700s from Monday? Or is the next Great Leap Forward later in the month?

Another Cambridge to Brighton train from tomorrow (and return). 8 car 700.

 

[APUK002]

Another Cambridge to Brighton train from tomorrow (and return). 8 car 700.

Kool,headcodes?

 

[jon0844]

Kool,headcodes?

9S27 RLU (8 car) CBG 1124 - BTN 1342
9S36 RLU (8 car) BTN 1432 - CBG 1648

 

[APUK002]

9S27 RLU (8 car) CBG 1124 - BTN 1342
9S36 RLU (8 car) BTN 1432 - CBG 1648

Thanks,did you check weekend workings?

 

[notverydeep]

Careful drivers! Yesterday I saw 700050 waiting in platform 11 at King's Cross to form 1P70, the 1842 King's Cross to Peterborough. The concourse end coupler was literally a hair's width from the 'stop' sign positioned on a post in the four foot. Presumably, 1 mm further and it would technically have been a 'SPAD'? It struck me that the driver of a 700 is sat further back from the windscreen than on say a class 317, 365 or 387 and in addition, the sloped front means that the coupler face is further still from the driver's seated position. I guess this means that the drivers will need to be careful when using their normal visual cues to line up with the correct stopping mark without over doing it. One for the instructor drivers to point out, I guess...

It was only a matter of time before someone went to far... I noticed towards the end of last week that the stop sign just before the train arrester at King's Cross platform 11 has been in contact with a coupler and is now leaning somewhat!

 

[GtNortherner]

It was only a matter of time before someone went to far... I noticed towards the end of last week that the stop sign just before the train arrester at King's Cross platform 11 has been in contact with a coupler and is now leaning somewhat!

Yes, I noticed this too - managed to take a quick snap of it. Didn't look like there was much damage at all to the 700 - the sign didn't fare quite so well though...!

 

[jamieP]

Extra 8 car diagrams from tomorrow but I dont have the diagrams to hand to tell you whats services have been changed apart from the I know one of them is the 0547 Peterborough - London Kings Cross.

 

[jon0844]

I posted them in the GN timetable thread earlier this week.

 

[Failed Unit]

The trains. (Adding detail from Post above - thanks for gen)
Cambridge Route
UP
2R35 0834 Letchworth - London
2R41 1001 Letchworth - London
1R45 0713 Royston - London
1R47 0732 Royston - London
1R55 1713 Royston - London
1C01 0514 Cambridge - London
1C49 0756 Cambridge - London
1T29 1158 Ely - London
1T33 1358 Ely - London
1T69 1658 Ely - London
2T61 1747 Cambridge- London
1T17 1858 Ely - London
1T25 2058 Ely - London

DOWN
1T14 1014 London- Ely
1T18 1114 London - Ely
1T34 1514 London - Ely
2T22 1605 London- Cambridge North.
1T02 1714 London- Ely
1T10 1914 London - Ely
2C02 0604 London - Cambridge
1R38 1616 London - Royston
2C28 1722 London - Cambridge
2R38 1934 London - letchworth
2R50 2234 London - Royston
1C88 ????

Peterborough Route
UP
2P21 0410 Peterborough- London
1P41 0510 Peterborough - London
2P91 0547 Peterborough- London
1P09 0726 Peterborough- London
1P51 0816 Peterborough- London
1P53 0847 Peterborough- London
1P57 0946 Peterborough - London
2P45 1018 Peterborough- London
1P63 1247 Peterborough- London
1418 Peterborough- London.
1P69 1547 Peterborough- London
2P63 1916 Peterborough- London
2P65 2016 Peterborough- London.
1P85 2244 Peterborough - London
1P73 1803 Peterborough- London.

DOWN
2P02 0634 London- Peterborough
1P42 0722 London- Peterborough
1P44 0822 London - Peterborough
2P06 0834 London - Peterborough
1P50 1122 London - Peterborough
2P14 1234 London - Peterborough
1P54 1322 London - Peterborough
1P56 1422 London - Peterborough
1P60 1622 London - Huntingdon
1P64 1712 London - Peterborough
1P18 1837 London - Peterborough
1P70 1842 London - Peterborough
1P78 2022 London - Peterborough
1P80 2122 London - Peterborough
1P32 2207 London - Peterborough
2P58 0034 London - Peterborough

Welwyn Route
UP
2Y83 0703 Welwyn- London
2Y91 1639 welwyn - London
2Y67 2334 Welwyn - London

Will fill in gaps later.

Now the next batch are on the rails I think this is now the complete Monday - Friday service list.

 

[387star]

Can anyone confirm that any Bedford services are being routed by London Bridge Good Friday and Easter Monday ?

I know no preview services running

 

[Failed Unit]

Can anyone confirm that any Bedford services are being routed by London Bridge Good Friday and Easter Monday ?

I know no preview services running

Real train times shows some Bedford - Brightons running through - but "runs as required" so not sure if you will be disappointed if you went to travel on them.

 

[notverydeep]

For the last two days 2T93 0720 Cambridge North has been 2 x 365 (luxury spare seats at Welwyn Garden City yay!) vice 2x387s. This train normally calls at the villages, so needs to have SDO. Real Time Trains shows the train calling at the villages yesterday, although that could simply be spurious and actually the train past non-stop and it is shown as passing non-stop today. Does anyone know if this a change to the diagrams related to the roll out of 700s on other trains, or simply that there aren't enough 387s available, but plenty of spare 365s to avoid cancelling?

 

[jamieP]

For the last two days 2T93 0720 Cambridge North has been 2 x 365 (luxury spare seats at Welwyn Garden City yay!) vice 2x387s. This train normally calls at the villages, so needs to have SDO. Real Time Trains shows the train calling at the villages yesterday, although that could simply be spurious and actually the train past non-stop and it is shown as passing non-stop today. Does anyone know if this a change to the diagrams related to the roll out of 700s on other trains, or simply that there aren't enough 387s available, but plenty of spare 365s to avoid cancelling?

Just short of 387s at the moment thats all.