MarkWi72
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The Greens are endorsing building HS2 in full, at the Manchester Conference. There's been a lot of lobbying and discussion over time on this matter and it's good to see.
Delegates at Green Party conference in Manchester have voted for HS2 to be funded and completed in full, including the entire Eastern leg and an underground through station at Manchester Piccadilly. The policy development comes as phase one of HS2 between London and Birmingham is well under construction
With respect I think thats a little unfair. There has been a movement within the Green Party members for some years that is in favour of HS2 with the aim of changing the party leaderships policy. I have been following 'Greens for HS2' on twitter for some years.So they were totally against HS2 when it was being built in full, and now totally support it now most of it has been cancelled.
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It is at least encouraging that her views on it are being discounted by the current party leadership.Natalie Bennett, who is the former leader and now sits in the Lords, has said she won't be backing it or speaking in favour of it.
Not a real or serious political party if the members still cannot make one of only two peers they have speak in favour of such a significant policy. It remains a receptacle for rubbish votes.
I think they have now agreed a policy (although vote was not overwhelming). The key difference is that they now see it as much better alternative than domestic aviation or building lots of big new roads.How can anyone trust a word they say on anything as they change their minds faster than any other political party and they can't even agree amongst themselves what their policy is?
The Green Party’s previous view of was of upgrading the existing network (because West Coast Route Modernisation went so well) or that remote working would erode the market away.I think they have now agreed a policy (although vote was not overwhelming). The key difference is that they now see it as much better alternative than domestic aviation or building lots of big new roads.
Agree 100%I'm somewhat surprised at some of the hostility here. We should be supportive of people changing their minds to be in favour of it surely? If we just sit here and sneer, then why would anyone entertain the idea to begin with if they know they are just going to get shouted at for their previous stance.
Not fully in support, only 52% support 48% opposeSo they were totally against HS2 when it was being built in full, and now totally support it now most of it has been cancelled.
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Where have we heard those numbers before?Not fully in support, only 52% support 48% oppose
Exactly my point as I was posting links on social media right now. If the GP had been behind HS2 when it really mattered, perhaps....just perhaps, it might have made a difference, but instead the hypocrisy got in the way and the GP elite dug their heels in. It's interesting to note Carla Denyer's comments, as she, somewhat unconvincingly, tries to save face and get behind it now...just totally ridiculous. I think perhaps the party could do with another leadership contest almost, maybe someone from Greens4HS2, someone with some common sense might be a better option....So they were totally against HS2 when it was being built in full, and now totally support it now most of it has been cancelled.
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Would you like to enumerate the Conservative Party's various positions on HS2 over the years?How can anyone trust a word they say on anything as they change their minds faster than any other political party
Carla submitted a speech supporting the motion which ultimately led to this policy change.Exactly my point as I was posting links on social media right now. If the GP had been behind HS2 when it really mattered, perhaps....just perhaps, it might have made a difference, but instead the hypocrisy got in the way and the GP elite dug their heels in. It's interesting to note Carla Denyer's comments, as she, somewhat unconvincingly, tries to save face and get behind it now...just totally ridiculous. I think perhaps the party could do with another leadership contest almost, maybe someone from Greens4HS2, someone with some common sense might be a better option....![]()
Evidently the electors of Brighton Pavilion, North Herefordshire, Bristol Central, and Waveney Valley do, as well as city/district councillors in places like Bristol, Oxford, Stroud, Worcester, and no doubt other places that don't spring to mind immediately.I think the correct reaction here is a shrug. Who cares what the Green Party think about anything?
I think Britain tried that once before, then the Industrial Revolution happened.lots of them (at activist level) are sceptical about any form of commercialised economic activity, and would rather people stayed at home and subsisted on produce they’ve grown.
Exactly. My house in the UK on the top of an embankment/cutting, 4 miles north of Preston on the WCML, has over the years become a fabulous haven for wildlife. All sorts of wildflowers and slowworms etc.Yes it does disrupt habitats but there are plenty of places where new habitats will be created and I imagine monitored for progress too.
Exactly.Good to see that they've finally realised building it in full is actually better for the environment!