Grosmont whitby suspended

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  1. YorkshireBear

    YorkshireBear Established Member

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    Trains were replaced by buses earlier today and it will now continue into tommorow due to an operational incident at grosmont. Anyone any idea what iit is, i must admit i first thought have NYMR done something.
     
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  3. DarloRich

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    could simply be a points failure!

     
  4. ralphchadkirk

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    Never heard of buses replacing trains for a points failure! Haven't seen that listed as operational incident either before!
     
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    it might on a single track to double track connection or if a train was blocking a crossing!

    Are the nymr trains still running tto whitby at this time of year

     
  6. YorkshireBear

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    No i dont think they are but that doesnt mean they arnt testing anything. I did think points failure but i thought that came under signal failure, i take operation incident to be something else...
     
  7. Pumbaa

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    Have a look on ORR - there was a directive to a volunteer run railway put up recently about improving standards, but I have no idea who it was. It may have been North Yorks.
     
  8. YorkshireBear

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    think it was wendsleydale i heard that recently in relation to sighting on crossings.
    Yes it was, doesnt give much detail on ORR website but i know that crossings had something to do with it.
     
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    Runaway carriage, according to other forums such as WNXX.
     
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    Operational incident can usually be taken as "miscellaneous" - it is used when other standard reasons for delay don't fit.

    Could be anything!
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    On NYMR or on NR metals?

    Hmm!
     
  11. tsubaki

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    Golf ball on the track, apparently - they grow them big up there.
     
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    Will have a look now although I will have to be careful as this hasn't been confirmed.

    I would suggest those commenting on this thread who are registered on the wnxx forum take a look on there as there is more information.
     
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    The incident occurred on NYMR metals. I understand a crane is due to attend at some point tomorrow. With this and what happened at Pontypool at the weekend, it hasn't been a good few days for preservation. I feel extrememly sorry for those involved in the preservation of the rolling stock involved who have seen their vehicles damaged, it must be heartbreaking after putting in so many hours restoration work. At least nobody was (as far as I know) injured in what happened.
     
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    Ive had an email saying a bridge bash Does this suggest a coach has hit a bridge?

    Alan
     
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    Thats what has been mentioned on the WNXX forum.
     
  16. The 39 Steps

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    2Z99 2320 (15.11.11) Knottingley to Grosmont is shown to have a crane in the consist. It was due into Grosmont at 0315 and shown with 66099 in charge. I understand a coach has gone through the buffer stop on no.2 road. It is about six feet from the NR line and not foul of it.
     
  17. YorkshireBear

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    From one news report both revceived considerable damage and one may be written off... Not good news for such historic carriges. Hopefully they will get repaired but it remains to be seen.
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    Well it certainly wasnt a points failure :P
     
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    2Z99 1830 (16.11,11) Grosmont to Tees Yard. Shown booked at Whitby 1900 to 2330 but departed 53 minutes early at 2237, Battersby 0042/0121 (Actual 2343/0014) and into Tees Yard 65 minutes early at 0045. 66099 with ADRC 96710 ZIB, ADB 975477 QPA, ADB 975087 QQA and ADB 971004 QQA in tow.
     
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    Seems like some one speculates (makes a pure guess) on one forum, is then copied onto another forum as fact, then is quoted back onto the original forum as evidence...

    I don't think speculation is helping any one but is damaging to the preservation movement.
     
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    That's the problem with the information age - we all want and in some cases expect the information to be there quickly but half the time it is incorrect.
     
  21. E&W Lucas

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    Posted on the NYMR's Unofficial Forum, and others:

    INCIDENT AT GROSMONT – Tuesday 15 November 2011

    While attaching a locomotive to a train at Grosmont Station, the coaches ran away into a siding demolishing the buffer stop, and coming to rest having struck the parapet of an adjoining bridge on Network Rail’s Esk Valley Line. The end coach was partially derailed angled towards the Esk Valley Line. There were no staff injuries. NYMR were not running public services on this day with the train movement concerned being for internal purposes.

    Unfortunately the end vehicle (Gresley Brake Third Open No 43567) has suffered significant damage, although the full extent will only be known once the coach has been recovered and examined. Although not actually foul of their running line, because of uncertainty about any possible impact on the bridge, and fears about vibration disturbing the derailed coach, Network Rail suspended the passage of trains past the site.

    Recovery work was managed by DBS on behalf of Network Rail using their breakdown crane from Knottingley. Because of the difficult site location access has to be from the Esk Valley running line. NYMR participated in the recovery, which was completed late afternoon on 16th November 2011.

    NYMR very much regret the incident, and the affect it had on both Northern Rail train services and Network Rail infrastructure. We especially extend our apologies for the inconvenience to Northern’s passengers. NYMR will, of course, be carrying out a full investigation, with enquiries focused on the derailed coach. Early indications suggest the incident was not due to an error on the part of any staff engaged in the train movement who acted in an exemplary manner.

    The Rail Accident Investigation Branch and Office of Rail Regulation have been advised.


    Philip Benham
    General Manager 17 November 2011
     
  22. OxtedL

    OxtedL Established Member Quizmaster

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    http://xkcd.com/978/ :D
     
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