Group Bourdon Tool

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  1. newlearner

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    The Group Bourdon Tool link is not working at all, here is the file all scanned as at 31/10/2017 via online virus scanners ..all clear! Credits Chris Gresham

    Enjoy
     

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  3. Spankthemonkey

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    Can we make this a sticky
     
  4. newlearner

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    I think only admins etc can pin posts....It will be nice if we can.
     
  5. Lrd

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    Thanks for doing that, I've stickied this thread and removed the old one
     
  6. newlearner

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    nice one
     
  7. Uplinker

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    Hi guys.

    Am having difficulty getting this to work. My iPad has transferred two files from the above link onto Goodreader, an .exe and a .zip. I can't seem to get the .exe to work. What should I expect to see and how do I get the system to run?

    Thanks.
     
  8. newlearner

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    It's not compatible with iOS, .exe files are windows executable. This will only work on windows based computer/system.
     
  9. martin2345uk

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    Is there a similar thing for the SCAAT shapes test at all..?
     
  10. newlearner

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    I'm not sure I follow you? If you are asking about another software like this... this is the only free software I am aware of.

    This generates SCAAT sheets (you can print) or you can practice on your PC.
     
  11. Uplinker

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    Thanks newlearner, (post#7)

    I will crank up my ancient PC !
     
  12. martin2345uk

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    Oh I’m sorry, I though this was only the group bourdon, I didn’t realise it was the SCAAT test too :)
     
  13. Will66

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    So, what is a good score on this?
     
  14. Dynamonic

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    I was consistently getting 0 errors and 0 omissions, getting about 10-11 lines down on each page, with a row fluctuation of about 2.5. I got an enhanced pass last month with EMT.
    Try to use paper printouts for your practice, as this is what you'll likely be using on the day. :) Print off 5 sheets, and give yourself 2 minutes for each sheet. You want to strike-through from top right to bottom left, every group of '4' dots. Make a 'cross' for the ones you mark by accident, as you would do in the real test.

    Good luck!
     
  15. Uplinker

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    Thanks for the GBT and SCAAT test software, (and Chris Gresham for writing it), but Wow it is tricky!

    I hope it gets easier with practice and we get faster.....
     
  16. Dynamonic

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    Aim for accuracy rather than speed.
    Speed will do you no favours if you start making mistakes or missing answers.
    Only work on speed when everything else is spot on. :)
     
  17. Uplinker

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    Cool. Will do.

    Thanks.
     
  18. Uplinker

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    So does any one know how many companies use computer presented GBT/SCAAT tests and how many use paper ones?
     
  19. WCMLaddict

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    RSSB driver testing standard, as far as I know, still requires dot test to be done on paper sheets.
     
  20. Uplinker

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    Thanks.

    Tried slowing down a bit and seemed to get a bit further down each sheet in the time available. No incorrect ones marked but a few valid targets missed. It’s only the second day I have been doing these, and already a slight improvement, so that’s good.

    RSSB?
     
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  22. Uplinker

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    Thanks again. That is a useful document, not least because it explains a lot of the acronyms.
     
  23. choochoobacca

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    Hello,
    New to the forum. Is there a group bourdon tool available for Mac users that anybody is aware of? My wife and I are both Mac users so have no access to pc. Many thanks for any information/advice anyone can provide
     
  24. newlearner

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    Hi, you can create a virtual machine on your Mac, please research further to gain an understanding of running dual environment...you can use the following:
    1. Apple's Boot Camp. ...
    2. To run Windows in a virtual machine within OS X, use Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion, or VirtualBox.
     
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    Will this open on a windows surface??
     
  26. baz962

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    Mate you doing the assessment on friday with arriva.
     
  27. Saracen_83

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    Yes hence the practicing g, ran out of other bourdon tests so wanted more!!
     
  28. baz962

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    Mate I just googled it then printed them off.
     
  29. Undiscovered

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    Downloaded this previously on a laptop n it's fine.
    Now trying to run on a netbook with a max resolution which is below the recommended n can't alter it. Any fix for this or is it a 'pinch the kids laptop' job?
     
  30. Danny Austin

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    hi guys

    I am brand new to this and have got an assessment on the 5th feb, I have downloaded the group bourdon too and am struggling to use it ie what are the controls for this as I'm getting tons of errors

    cheers
     
  31. Dynamonic

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    Hi there Danny,

    Your objective is to highlight patterns of 4 dots as quickly and as accurately as possible, whilst maintaining a consistent level of performance throughout.

    In terms of controls for the software, use the right arrow key to scroll across, and up arrow key to ‘mark’ a group of dots.
    The left arrow key will allow you to go back one space (only).

    As the actual test is paper based, I recommend printing some practice papers off to give you a more accurate representation of the actual day. Use 5 sheets and give yourself 2 minutes for each.
    In the paper based test, you strike-through your groups with a ‘/‘, and if you happen to notice you’ve made a mistake, strike-through again to make an ‘X’.

    In my practice tests, I was getting about 10 lines down, with a maximum of a couple of errors/omissions across the test, and a row fluctuation of about 2.6.
    I passed the actual test to East Midlands Trains’ Enhanced Standard.

    If you’re finding you’re making a lot of mistakes, just slow down until you stop making so many, and work from there.
    Accuracy and consistency across the sheets is key.

    Good luck! :)
     

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