MostlyHarmless
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It's 2 minutes per sheet
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daddy_badger
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Overall I don't remeber how long the GBT part is.
daddy_badger
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Is that between sheets, never heard of that before.
Dynamonic
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Probably because the practice material is different to the actual test, so the time allowed is stricter to replicate the pressure better.
Dynamonic
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You should aim to get to roughly the same point of every sheet to ensure consistency of performance. Because of this, you need to find a pace of working that ensures you can maintain a consistent, fast but comfortable pace, whilst keeping your overall errors and omissions minimal to nonexistent.
In my practices, I completed about 10-11 lines on every sheet, had no more than 1 error or omission, and had a Row Fluctuation score below 3. On the day, I passed to my TOC’s enhanced standard.
All the best with your preparation.
Greg38
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I have just got 1296 cells with no errors. Does anyone know if this would be a pass or what is needed for a pass ?
daddy_badger
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nobody knows for real what the pass mark is, consistency and accuracy is key no errors or omissions.
daddy_badger
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I find if you do the SCAAT test you will improve on concentration.
Is the SCAAT part of any of the assessments?
daddy_badger
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not normally, i know some FOC use it.
MostlyHarmless
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Yes, TPE require an enhanced pass
Anyone used this book as practice material?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dots-Conce...=the+real+group+bourdon&qid=1580340865&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dots-Conce...=the+real+group+bourdon&qid=1580340865&sr=8-2
Yes I have got it. It's in A5 and the assessments are in A4 size.
But it helps. Anything that helps is worth paying for
MostlyHarmless
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Don't waste your money - you can download the GB tool from here and print them out yourself (or get someone else to). From what I can see you're paying £13 for something you can get for free
Hello!
I have been carrying out some revision for myself and doing paper tests on the Group Bourdon test. I was just curious if anyone roughly knew how my scores were in comparison to either a pass or an enhanced mark?
My score was
3 Targets Omitted,
39 Rows Completed
And another couple of questions were, if I don't complete a row when I have to change paper, do the rest of those targets missed on that line after my previous marker count as 'targets omitted'?
And if you mark an incorrect target but put an X due to knowing it was a mistake, will this get marked as a mistaken target or would it be overlooked due to you marking yourself that it was incorrect and a mistake?
I have been carrying out some revision for myself and doing paper tests on the Group Bourdon test. I was just curious if anyone roughly knew how my scores were in comparison to either a pass or an enhanced mark?
My score was
3 Targets Omitted,
39 Rows Completed
And another couple of questions were, if I don't complete a row when I have to change paper, do the rest of those targets missed on that line after my previous marker count as 'targets omitted'?
And if you mark an incorrect target but put an X due to knowing it was a mistake, will this get marked as a mistaken target or would it be overlooked due to you marking yourself that it was incorrect and a mistake?
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Applepie356
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I just practiced the GB test, on 5 sheets 2 mins each. I complete around 10-11 lines and have 5 omissions overall. Is that good?
Greg38
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Do northern rail use the scaat test or group bourdon ? , Think I have heard they use group bourdon.Can someone confirm. Thanks.
PickleTree
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The number of lines is in line with what I completed but I would look to improve your omissions and aim for a minimum of 1 or 2.
Yes I’ve printed it out now to practice
Applepie356
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So does line fluctuation count towards your final score? My range is 10-12 Completed Lines. Is that something I should be concerned about?
MostlyHarmless
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Nobody really knows how it is scored but the getting 9-10 rows with as few omissions or mistakes as possible seems to be a good benchmark.
Victornc
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I think it had been asked but not sure Iv seen a answer or if anyone knows. What happens if you get halfway through a lind or no time to finish it? As u can see Iv marked with a ] where I got up to before timer went off but underlined few groups of 4 I have missed. Do they mark the full line or somehow know where u you have stopped on that test and moved on?
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paully617
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Hi all,
I have stage 1 on Tuesday and so far I have been practicing both the GBT and SCAAT on paper and on the pc. GBT on paper I am completing 7 lines with 3 errors total.
SCAAT tests im completing 11 lines with virtually no errors.
Letters and symbols aren't an issue, its the dots.
Is it always going to 4 patterns of 4 dots?
I have stage 1 on Tuesday and so far I have been practicing both the GBT and SCAAT on paper and on the pc. GBT on paper I am completing 7 lines with 3 errors total.
SCAAT tests im completing 11 lines with virtually no errors.
Letters and symbols aren't an issue, its the dots.
Is it always going to 4 patterns of 4 dots?
It will always be 4 dots you’re looking for. Look for the shape of the dots rather than counting the dots, this will help you speed ip.. but u need to practice practice practice
Victornc
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Agree totally with this! What I did was practice one test then on separate piece of paper when trough the test again but drawing all different shapes of groups of 4 that where there. There’s only so many plus gets you use to the shape/group styles to look out for. Then I look at this for a few mins before a test just to remind my self. Iv put up pic to try nd help.
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