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Connor43002
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Thats a bummer, hopefully a 158 tomorrow then... Thanks
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158766 is working 2C67 with 153329 
but yeah no sign of a 158 on 2C42 today unfortunately, just 150219...
but yeah no sign of a 158 on 2C42 today unfortunately, just 150219...PHILIPE
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158766 is working 2C67 with 153329
There are only 2 x 158/0s so if one out of service or gone elsewhere then that's it.
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Yes, 158763 (local lines livery) and 158766 (GWR Green livery) so 763 must be in sue elsewhere hence 150219 on it today. But thinking about it, don't GWR also have that hire in SWR 158, surely that could be used if nessacary...
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That's already being used elsewhere...
158763 is on PM502 diagram. Starts Westbury DMU Sdgs, then AM TransWilts, PM Westbury - Bristol Parkway Corridor, last NB TransWilts (through to Cheltenham via Stroud) then stopping service Cheltenham to Bristol to finish on St Phillips Marsh.
Booked to be a 150/2.
There are no 158/0 diagrams starting Westbury DMU Sdgs anymore; thus where 763 ended yesterday at Westbury it just had to go on the best-match Westbury start diagram.
The SWR hire-in has a set diagram it usually works; to enable it to end up on an SWR service from Bristol TM in the evening. There is no practical point where it could end up on the Cornish 158/0 diagram; and get back to Bristol.
It does mean at least there will be a 158/0 at Bristol tomorrow for 2C42. Whether it gets subbed for a 150 tomorrow remains to be seen.
Booked to be a 150/2.
There are no 158/0 diagrams starting Westbury DMU Sdgs anymore; thus where 763 ended yesterday at Westbury it just had to go on the best-match Westbury start diagram.
The SWR hire-in has a set diagram it usually works; to enable it to end up on an SWR service from Bristol TM in the evening. There is no practical point where it could end up on the Cornish 158/0 diagram; and get back to Bristol.
It does mean at least there will be a 158/0 at Bristol tomorrow for 2C42. Whether it gets subbed for a 150 tomorrow remains to be seen.
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And then the SWT unit has to work a suitable diagram to enable it to start and finish the day at Salisbury
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I thought the 158s were for the longer distance stuff and the barnstaple line with 150s for locals?
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That is the plan but not enough turbos have been freed up yet to allow the 158s to do long distance services into Devon and Cornwall... Someone correct me if I am wrong?
From January next year
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I heard it was going to be December for Barnstaple as it would make sense with the timetable change?
PHILIPE
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The GWR Timetable changed in January this time.
Not all crews west of Exeter sign 158’s yet hence they only appear occasionally.
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The reason it didn't appear today is that there wasn't a 158/0 available at Bristol. (See Post #128)
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when you say 158/0, I take it you are referring to the 158/7s e.g. 158763/766/798??
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The 2 Car ones which are shown on Diagrams as 158/0, i.e. 763 and 766. 798 is known as 158/9
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That's confusing
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What's confusing ? GWR have 2 Car and 3 Car 158s and are known as 158/0s and 158/9s. The /9s are Hybrids formed by a 2 Car and a 2 Car split except for 798 which is the only true 3 Car and which for some reason is a 158/0 but becasue it is a 3 Car is treated as a 158/9
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Why the hell is 158798 known as a 150/9? Or did u mean 158/9?
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Look at the post now. Typo
I did not reply specifically to a particular days no show of a 158 but just generally to the fact that they only work west of Exeter when there are suitably trained crews to work them.
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158766 is working 2C42 today
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Thanks, will hopefully see it later
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Would be nice for 763 to do it this week has yet to do it yet
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Not today... double dog box this morning.
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158766 is on 2U02 and 2C67
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PHILIPE
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158954 today working:-
2C45 0828 Bristol TM to Penzance
2C56 1437 Penzance to Bristol TM
This is while there are 2 Car trains on the Cardiff to Portsmouth route but none of those are Bristol starters so they can only be formed with what is there.
2C45 0828 Bristol TM to Penzance
2C56 1437 Penzance to Bristol TM
This is while there are 2 Car trains on the Cardiff to Portsmouth route but none of those are Bristol starters so they can only be formed with what is there.
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