GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[wls1]

I believe 165132 is on 0850 Great Malvern-Westbury as it worked up from Bristol last night.

 

[railfan26]

Wednesday 4th July
153333

5J90 0849 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
2J90 0859 Exeter St Davids to St James' Park
5U12 0907 St James' Park to St James' Park
2U12 0925 St James' Park to Bristol Parkway
2C73 1139 Bristol Parkway to Taunton
2U18 1308 Taunton to Bristol Parkway
2C79 1439 Bristol Parkway to Taunton
2U24 1607 Taunton to Bristol Parkway
2C85 1740 Bristol Parkway to Taunton
2M60 1917 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads
2K44 2034 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K45 2129 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K50 2216 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K53 2254 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads

Tuesday 10th July
166215
2K02 0548 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K03 0629 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K06 0703 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K07 0751 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K10 0836 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K11 0915 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K14 1003 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K15 1034 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K18 1116 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K19 1154 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K22 1234 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K23 1315 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K26 1403 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K27 1434 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K30 1516 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K31 1554 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K34 1635 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K35 1715 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K38 1803 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K39 1845 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2C30 1949 Bristol Temple Meads - Frome
2A87 2102 Frome - Westbury
5A87 2132 Westbury - Westbury Dmu Sidings

166219
2K04 0630 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K05 0715 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K08 0803 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K09 0836 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K12 0916 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K13 0956 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K16 1034 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K17 1115 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K20 1203 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K21 1234 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K24 1316 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K25 1356 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K28 1434 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K29 1515 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K32 1603 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K33 1634 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K36 1713 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K37 1754 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K42 1933 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K43 2003 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2E29 2041 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2G99 2228 Worcester Shrub Hill - Gloucester
5G99 2353 Gloucester - Gloucester Carriage Sdgs 2358

sightings of today

 

[railfan26]

Can anyone please tell me what 2 car unit worked
2K46 2137 Bristol Temple Meads to Avonmouth today and Friday 6th July please?

Also if possible the 2 car units that worked
2Y26 1716 Filton Abbey Wood to Weston-super-Mare 1800, 2C25 2016 Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads 2027 and 2C92 2038 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads 2128 on Thursday 5th July.

IE anything from these diagrams below. Thank you in advance

anyone know what worked any of these today?

 

[FGW_DID]

Today

2K46: 150266
2Y26:166202
2C25: 165132
2C92: 150244

HTH

 

[railfan26]

Today

2K46: 150266
2Y26:166202
2C25: 165132
2C92: 150244

HTH

Thank you so much. Any idea where 2K46 came from? Was it from 1F32 1823 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central?

 

[ValleyLines142]

Thank you so much. Any idea where 2K46 came from? Was it from 1F32 1823 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central?

No, 1F32 arrives into Cardiff at 2144, so wouldn't be in Bristol for a 2137 departure. I believe it comes off 2C92 (2038 ex-Westbury).

 

[FGW_DID]

Thank you so much. Any idea where 2K46 came from? Was it from 1F32 1823 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central?

Unless there was a set swap, according to the LTP diagrams, the unit that works 2K46 comes up from Westbury (2C92 20:38 Westbury - Bristol TM)

 

[railfan26]

Oh really confused then as quoted above was 150244 which RTT says went in to plat 6 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C42301/2018/07/10/advanced and 2K46 was 150266 which went out from Plat 9 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C42740/2018/07/10/advanced. Was that just a typo on unit numbers or does anyone happen to know workings of 150266 for yesterday by any chance?

 

[FGW_DID]

Oh really confused then as quoted above was 150244 which RTT says went in to plat 6 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C42301/2018/07/10/advanced and 2K46 was 150266 which went out from Plat 9 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C42740/2018/07/10/advanced. Was that just a typo on unit numbers or does anyone happen to know workings of 150266 for yesterday by any chance?

The unit numbers were taken off GENIUS. You may find there was a set swap for some reason or the diagrams may have been altered in the STP train plan for this week.

 

[railfan26]

No problem thank you for clarifying. You're a star

 

[PHILIPE]

Don't rely on RTT for platforming, especially anything STP or short notice changes

 

[railfan26]

Unfortunately have to use a combination of RTT, OTT, traksy, http://www.charlwoodhouse.co.uk/rail/liverail
and http://iris2.rail.co.uk/tiger/
This still doesn't always track it down. Does anyone know which site is best for closest to accurate platforming?

 

[railfan26]

Can someone plese tell me which unit worked these please and any idea what they were testing.

5Z33 2315 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Severn Beach
5Z53 0247 Severn Beach to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

Thank you in advance

Can anyone shed any light on what unit this might have been please and what they were testing?

 

[PHILIPE]

Can anyone shed any light on what unit this might have been please and what they were testing?

Turbo ASDO testing

 

[railfan26]

Perfect thank you @PHILIPE any chance this may have been a 165 or was it a 166?

 

[railfan26]

Perfect thank you @PHILIPE any chance this may have been a 165 or was it a 166?

Since found out was 166205

 

[railfan26]

Is there any chance of including empty coaching stock as part of the diagrams? Only those confirmed though. Think these are right but apologies if not

inbound M-F

5K00 0415 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads splits to form
2K00 0514 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach and 2K02 0548 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth

splits from 5D04 0557 St Philips Mrsh H S T D - Taunton
or 5K04 0603 Bristol High Level Siding - Bristol Temple Meads 0609
or 2V94 2009 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads 2237
or splits from 5C63 0445 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Gloucester at BRI
forms 5K04 0528 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads 0535

5D04 0557 St Philips Mrsh H S T D - Taunton
2D04 0735 Taunton - Bristol Parkway

5C63 0600 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs - Gloucester
2C63 0617 Gloucester - Taunton

2O97 1640 Gloucester to Weymouth from night before
then 2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway

5D02 0536 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
2D02 0600 Exeter St Davids - Bristol Parkway

5D05 0637 Weymouth Jersey Siding to Weymouth
2D05 0644 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway

5O66 0640 Westbury Dmu Sidings to Westbury
2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth

5M02 0505 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Gloucester
2M02 0519 Gloucester - Southampton Central via Swindon

2O01 0524 Westbury - Salisbury
2E16 0602 Salisbury - Gloucester

5G99 0545 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Gloucester
2A99 0706 Gloucester - Swindon via Bristol Temple Meads

5Y05 0716 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads splits to form
5U08 0752 Bristol Temple Meads to Weston-super-Mare and 2Y05 0748 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton

outbound M-F

2M76 2245 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 2K53 2254 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5K53 0023 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
or forms 5M76 0016 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D 0045

2A87 2102 Frome - Westbury
5A87 2132 Westbury - Westbury Dmu Sidings

2G99 2228 Worcester Shrub Hill - Gloucester
5G99 2353 Gloucester - Gloucester Carriage Sdgs 2358

2O98 2049 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth
stays at Weymouth overnight
or 5O98 2316 Weymouth to Weymouth Jersey Siding 2319

2K53 2254 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 2M76 2245 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5K53 0023 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
or forms 5M76 0016 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D 0045
or joins 2C97 2327 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5C97 0044 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2K49 2220 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
5K49 2311 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
or joins 2T99 2136 Great Malvern to Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5T99 2355 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2C89 1900 Cardiff Central - Taunton
5C89 2104 Taunton - St Phillips Marsh TMD

2B98 2102 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon
5B98 2229 Swindon to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 2V93 1730 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5T97 2102 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2V93 1730 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads
forms 5T97 2102 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2O97 1640 Gloucester - Weymouth
Weymouth overnight
or 5O97 2024 Weymouth to Weymouth Jersey Siding

2G93 2154 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
5G93 2306 Cheltenham Spa to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

2C34 2100 Cardiff Central - Westbury
5C34 2310 Westbury to Westbury Dmu Sidings

2E30 2035 Taunton - Gloucester
5E30 2259 Gloucester to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

Saturday inbound

5K02 0520 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2K02 0603 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth

5B98 2229 Swindon to Bristol Temple Meads
2K04 0633 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth

5O66 0640 Westbury Dmu Sidings to Westbury
2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth

5M12 1446 Westbury Dmu Sidings to Westbury
2M12 1410 Frome to Swindon

5C08 0556 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Cheltenham Spa
2C08 0624 Cheltenham Spa to Westbury

5G79 0540 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Gloucester
2G79 0600 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill

5G80 0658 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Gloucester
2G80 0715 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill

5O72 0820 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
1O72 0901 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth

5U04 0645 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2U04 0723 Bristol Temple Meads - Cardiff Central

5Y02 0610 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2Y02 0649 Bristol Temple Meads - Weston-super-Mare

5C63 0605 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Gloucester
2C63 0621 Gloucester - Taunton

5C61 0520 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2C61 0618 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton

Saturday outbound

2K47 2216 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 2M72 2135 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 2241
forms 5T47 2300 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2K49 2254 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
5K49 2347 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads
5T97 2102 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2G93 2154 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa
5G93 2306 Cheltenham Spa to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

2T99 2136 Great Malvern to Bristol Temple Meads
5T99 2355 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads

2V96 2132 Southampton Central to Bristol Temple Meads
5V96 0037 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2T47 2102 Cheltenham Spa to Bristol Temple Meads
5T47 2214 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2O97 1642 Gloucester - Weymouth
WEY overnight or
5O97 2026 Weymouth to Weymouth Jersey Siding

2M72 2135 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
5M72 2305 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2E30 2211 Bristol Temple Meads - Gloucester
5E30 2305 Gloucester to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

2O98 2050 Bristol Temple Meads – Weymouth
WEY overnight or
or 5O98 2321 Weymouth to Weymouth Jersey Siding

2G99 2225 Worcester Shrub Hill - Gloucester
5G99 2315 Gloucester to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

Sunday inbound

splits from 5O71 0739 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2K14 0901 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach

splits from 5O74 0835 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2K16 1023 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach

splits from 5O74 0835 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2K16 1023 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach

5F11 1103 Westbury Dmu Sidings to Westbury
2F11 1125 Westbury - Frome

5T33 0931 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Cheltenham Spa
2T33 1004 Cheltenham Spa - Taunton

5E38 1140 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2E38 1211 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill

5O74 0835 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Bristol Temple Meads
2O74 0925 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth

5C05 0815 Westbury Dmu Sidings to Westbury
2C05 0830 Westbury - Warminster

5B90 0853 Gloucester Carriage Sdgs to Cheltenham Spa
2B90 0924 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon

Sunday outbound

2E50 2230 Bristol Temple Meads - Gloucester
5E50 2326 Gloucester to Gloucester Carriage Sdgs

2E81 1830 Bristol Temple Meads - Exeter St Davids
Forms 2D02 0600 Exeter St Davids - Bristol Parkway Mon morning

2E81 1830 Bristol Temple Meads to Exeter St Davids 2008
5E81 2010 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd 2016

2M78 2347 Weston-super-Mare to Bristol Temple Meads
5M78 0025 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2M72 2025 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
5M72 2141 Bristol Temple Meads to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

2V94 2009 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads
BRI Plat 1 overnight

2C34 2215 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury
5C34 2340 Westbury to Westbury Dmu Sidings

2O96 2048 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth
5O96 2317 Weymouth to Weymouth

2T45 1840 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads
joins 1F37 2125 Bristol Temple Meads to Portsmouth Harbour
5F37 2358 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton C.S.D.

2B97 2017 Gloucester to Swindon
5B97 2107 Swindon to St Philips Mrsh H S T D

Also although not a 166 diagram, this is the missing diagram for the Severn Beach line on Sundays, usually a 150 i think

5K18 0910 Exeter Tmd - Exeter St Davids 0916
2K18 0934 Exeter St Davids - Severn Beach 1202
2K19 1212 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 1257
2C77 1307 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton 1404
2K34 1519 Taunton - Severn Beach 1702
2K35 1712 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 1749
2K38 1753 Bristol Temple Meads to Severn Beach
2K39 1842 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads
2K42 1953 Bristol Temple Meads to Avonmouth
2K43 2022 Avonmouth to Bristol Temple Meads
2K44 2053 Bristol Temple Meads to Clifton Down
2K45 2123 Clifton Down - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[PHILIPE]

Is there any chance of including empty coaching stock as part of the diagrams? Only those confirmed though. Think these are right but apologies if not





Also although not a 166 diagram, this is the missing diagram for the Severn Beach line on Sundays, usually a 150 i think

5K18 0910 Exeter Tmd - Exeter St Davids 0916
2K18 0934 Exeter St Davids - Severn Beach 1202
2K19 1212 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 1257
2C77 1307 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton 1404
2K34 1519 Taunton - Severn Beach 1702
2K35 1712 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads 1749
2E81 1830 Bristol Temple Meads to Exeter St Davids 2008
5E81 2010 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd 2016

Sundays 1749 ex Beach forms 1753 Return
2E81 formed off 2T43 1640 ex Worcester

 

[railfan26]

Sundays 1749 ex Beach forms 1753 Return
2E81 formed off 2T43 1640 ex Worcester

Thank you. Think have edited now with your amendments. Is this now correct?

 

[railfan26]

Any idea what 166210 became after 2K43 2003 Avonmouth to Bristol Temple Meads yesterday please? Usually becomes 2E29 2041 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Shrub Hill but was 150001. Any movements for either units yesterday much appreciated

 

[JN114]

With all due respect, why do you need to know? I don’t mind giving out the odd allocations here and there - where say someone saw train x but missed the unit number - but this is starting to get a little silly.

 

[railfan26]

As stated in a previous post, I am trying to get an understanding of the workings on my local train line and the workings on and off of the line. Not so much needing to know what liking to know. Just seems strange that something is confidential that is written on the train itself.

 

[PHILIPE]

With all due respect, why do you need to know? I don’t mind giving out the odd allocations here and there - where say someone saw train x but missed the unit number - but this is starting to get a little silly.

And the same question asked on the TOPS Request Thread

 

[railfan26]

Will ensure posting are minimal and infrequent in future

 

[JN114]

@PHILIPE with only restricted access it can be hard to find out what actually happens to train movements so unit ID can be the only way. Thank you all with your help and will try and ensure in the future posting is minimal

The access is restricted because strictly speaking the information is need-to-know. Yes there are plenty of valid “why should it be restricted” arguments - perhaps one day it’ll go in the open data feeds; but I wouldn’t hold your breath.

Staff are normally quite helpful, but arguably the information shouldn’t be shared outside the industry. There are confidentiality clauses in most (if not all?) Rail staff contracts; and in the strictest sense sharing any unit allocations would be in breach of that contract. Most employers thankfully turn a bit of a blind eye to it; but can’t do much if you draw attention to it.

The diagrams have been shared in this thread; if they don’t follow diagram then they don’t follow diagram. It’s the apparent cataloguing of swaps and off-diagram workings that has gotten alarm bells ringing.

If you need to know your employer would give you access to the information you seek. If you work in the industry and don’t have access to such systems, or do not work in the industry, you do not need to know.

 

[railfan26]

OK understood will bare in mind for future postings

 

[railfan26]

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[dmu fan]

Am planning usual yearly summer day out to weymouth. This year going on the 0741 from Gloucester direct to Weymouth mid week in the school holidays and returning on the 1730 to Bristol, onwards to Gloucester. Does anyone know what units are due to run these services? Are they doubling up enroute.? Which carriage has the chance of a table seat for a long journey with child if a class 166 now runs these services? Thanks

 

[JonathanH]

Am planning usual yearly summer day out to weymouth. This year going on the 0741 from Gloucester direct to Weymouth mid week in the school holidays and returning on the 1730 to Bristol, onwards to Gloucester. Does anyone know what units are due to run these services? Are they doubling up enroute.? Which carriage has the chance of a table seat for a long journey with child if a class 166 now runs these services? Thanks

Table seats in every carriage of a 166 - some in the declassified first class area behind each driving cab and tables in one end of the middle carriage.

A small triangular table at every bay of facing seats as well for passengers in the window seats.

No tables in a 165.

 

[Dai Corner]

Can anyone shed any light on how 2Z01 0612 Avonmouth to Bristol Temple Mead managed to start from Avonmouth? Was it ECS from Bristol Temple Meads or St Phillips Marsh maybe?

Looking at RTT, it would appear that 2K02 0548 Temple Meads to Avonmouth formed 2Z01. Normally it forms 2K03 0629 to Temple Meads. The delayed 2K01 0610 Severn Beach to Temple Meads arrived Avonmouth 0635 and formed 2K03, running about 7 minutes late.