GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[50031]

All 153s now at Exeter. No 2 car 165s out West yet. Perhaps these will be diagrammed for Melksham when available

 

[PHILIPE]

All 153s now at Exeter. No 2 car 165s out West yet. Perhaps these will be diagrammed for Melksham when available

The 153s have all been at Exeter for over a month now and the 165s will run coupled to 166s to run the Cardiff to Portsmouths as 5 Cars.

 

[Clarence Yard]

All 153s now at Exeter. No 2 car 165s out West yet. Perhaps these will be diagrammed for Melksham when available

Spot on. The 2 cars will be getting their RHM after the 16 x 166 and then they should be regulars on the Melksham turns.

 

[50031]

Ah.. 2 different opinions to my post! I didn't think all 10 165s would be captive to Portsmouth services.

 

[50031]

Thanks for the info. Do the remaining 166s at Reading only head West on completion of Newbury electrification ?

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Turbo is on PM461 diagram.
5G99 0556 XPM to GCR
2G80 0714 GCR to GMV
5F97 0812 GMV to GMV
2F97 0850 GMV to WSB
2M10 1220 WSB to SWI
2M11 1329 SWI to WSB
2D17 1438 WSB to BPW
2R98 1554 BPW to BTH
5R98 1624 BTH to BTH
2D24 1644 BTH to BPW
2C22 1744 BPW to WSB
9O00 1940 WSB to SOU
2V96 2120 SOU to WSB
5V96 2239 WSB to Westbury DMU Sidings

Thanks for that, added to the OP.

 

[ATW158Xpress]

Only 1 Turbo out on the Cardiff - Taunton diagrams instead of the booked 3. Are there any Turbos out for repairs?

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Only 1 Turbo out on the Cardiff - Taunton diagrams instead of the booked 3. Are there any Turbos out for repairs?

Possibly a lot having SDO (Selective Door Opening) modifications fitted for Wessex Mainline services. Currently only a few Turbos retain these modifications.

 

[PHILIPE]

Spot on. The 2 cars will be getting their RHM after the 16 x 166 and then they should be regulars on the Melksham turns.

Thanks for putting me right on the 165s. The Melksham capacity was a great improvement from the 153s when 2 car but 3 just over the top,

 

[Right Away]

The 2120 Southampton Central to Westbury service ran as 9V96 with the original 2V96 schedule cancelled, confirming that it will be run as a class 9 headcode if formed of a 16x unit.

 

[ATW158Xpress]

Possibly a lot having SDO (Selective Door Opening) modifications fitted for Wessex Mainline services. Currently only a few Turbos retain these modifications.

Makes a good sense to take more Turbo fleet out of service now to speed up so that majority have SDO mods before a bulk of 150/1 go off to Northern in the next few weeks.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

The 2120 Southampton Central to Westbury service ran as 9V96 with the original 2V96 schedule cancelled, confirming that it will be run as a class 9 headcode if formed of a 16x unit.

Thanks for confirming. I noticed there is a 9M02 0702 Westbury - Southampton Central service which then forms 2M97 0823 Southampton Central - Great Malvern. I don't see any additional working under "9M97" so are you able to confirm or not this is a Turbo diagram?

 

[heart-of-wessex]

Are all the Melksham turbos or just some? Thinking of going out earlier to work and getting a photo of the 0948 Westbury to Swindon providing it will be a turbo

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Appreciate everyone taking an interest in the thread I have done here and helping out with diagrams that need to be added/rectified to the thread. With the Turbos starting service to Weymouth and Warminster last week and to Southampton this week, I have been trying to keep on top of mainly the weekday diagrams. These are the current weekday Turbo diagrams as of now which I should think are correct. If there any diagrams that need adding or rectified in the thread (especially the weekday ones below) then please let me know via this thread.

Monday to Friday

2O01 0524 Westbury - Salisbury
2E16 0602 Salisbury - Gloucester
2O86 0842 Gloucester - Weymouth
2E24 1308 Weymouth - Gloucester
2O97 1640 Gloucester - Weymouth

2D05 0644 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C11 0941 Bristol Parkway - Bristol Temple Meads
5C11 1010 Bristol Temple Meads - St Phillips Marsh TMD
5D20 1516 St Phillips Marsh TMD - Bristol Temple Meads
2D20 1615 Bristol Temple Meads - Bristol Parkway
2F98 1646 Bristol Parkway - Warminster
2E28 1818 Warminster - Cheltenham Spa
2B98 2102 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon

9M02 0701 Westbury - Southampton Central
2M97 0823 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2O90 1251 Great Malvern - Weymouth
2V93 1730 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads

2G80 0715 Gloucester - Great Malvern
2F97 0850 Great Malvern - Westbury
2M10 1220 Westbury - Swindon
2M11 1329 Swindon - Westbury
2D17 1438 Westbury - Bristol Parkway
2R98 1554 Bristol Parkway - Bath Spa
2D24 1644 Bath Spa - Bristol Parkway
2C22 1744 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
9O00 1940 Westbury - Southampton Central
9V96 2120 Southampton Central - Westbury

2M04 0733 Westbury - Swindon
2M05 0849 Swindon - Westbury
2M06 0948 Westbury - Swindon
2M07 1047 Swindon - Westbury
2M08 1147 Westbury - Swindon
2M09 1247 Swindon - Frome
2M12 1404 Frome - Swindon
2M13 1518 Swindon - Westbury
2M14 1621 Westbury - Swindon
2M15 1736 Swindon - Westbury
2M16 1832 Westbury - Swindon
2M17 2006 Swindon - Westbury

2A99 0706 Gloucester - Swindon via Bristol Temple Meads
2G82 0936 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B92 1120 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G85 1336 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B96 1520 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G89 1754 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B97 2001 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G93 2154 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa

2M03 0704 Westbury - Cheltenham Spa
2B90 0918 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G83 1136 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B94 1320 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G87 1536 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2O00 1741 Cheltenham Spa - Westbury

2K00 0514 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K01 0600 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2Y04 0648 Bristol Temple Meads - Weston-super-Mare
9U06 0737 Weston-super-Mare - Cardiff Central
9C71 1000 Cardiff Central - Taunton
9U16 1204 Taunton - Cardiff Central
9C81 1500 Cardiff Central - Taunton
9U26 1706 Taunton - Cardiff Central
9C91 2000 Cardiff Central - Taunton

9U08 0841 Weston-super-Mare - Cardiff Central
9C73 1100 Cardiff Central - Taunton
9U18 1308 Taunton - Cardiff Central
9C83 1600 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2U28 1808 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads

2Y05 0748 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton
9U10 0916 Taunton - Cardiff Central
9C75 1200 Cardiff Central - Taunton
9U22 1457 Taunton - Cardiff Central
9C87 1800 Cardiff Central - Taunton
2E30 2035 Taunton - Gloucester

2C63 0617 Gloucester - Taunton
2D06 0836 Taunton - Bristol Parkway
2Y12 1012 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D10 1110 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y16 1212 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D14 1310 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y20 1412 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D18 1510 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y24 1612 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D26 1716 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y28 1812 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D30 1908 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2C25 2011 Bristol Parkway - Bristol Temple Meads
2K44 2034 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K45 2129 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K50 2216 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K53 2254 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads

2D04 0735 Taunton - Bristol Parkway
2Y10 0912 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D08 1010 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y14 1112 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D12 1209 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y18 1312 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D16 1410 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y22 1512 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2D22 1610 Weston-super-Mare - Bristol Parkway
2Y26 1712 Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare
2K40 1816 Weston-super-Mare - Avonmouth
2K41 1932 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K44 2034 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K45 2129 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K50 2221 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K53 2308 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads

2K02 0548 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K03 0629 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K06 0703 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K07 0751 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K10 0836 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K11 0915 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K14 1003 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K15 1034 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K18 1116 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K19 1154 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K22 1234 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K23 1315 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K26 1403 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K27 1434 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K30 1516 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K31 1554 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K34 1635 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K35 1715 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K38 1803 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K39 1845 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads

2K04 0630 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K05 0715 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K08 0803 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K09 0836 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K12 0916 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K13 0956 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K16 1034 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K17 1115 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K20 1203 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K21 1234 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K24 1316 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K25 1356 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K28 1434 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K29 1515 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K32 1603 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K33 1634 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K36 1713 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K37 1754 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K42 1933 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K43 2003 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Are all the Melksham turbos or just some? Thinking of going out earlier to work and getting a photo of the 0948 Westbury to Swindon providing it will be a turbo

Have been informed that service was a Turbo yesterday, so it should be a booked diagram. It's now in the thread.

 

[Parallel]

Looks to be a 153 out and about at Westbury today. Journeycheck reporting 08.45 Westbury to Gloucester formed of 1 coach. That’s if it runs, currently a points failure south of Westbury and a broken down train on the Melksham line if Journeycheck is anything to go by!

 

[Right Away]

Thanks for confirming. I noticed there is a 9M02 0702 Westbury - Southampton Central service which then forms 2M97 0823 Southampton Central - Great Malvern. I don't see any additional working under "9M97" so are you able to confirm or not this is a Turbo diagram?

SWR 158 on that one.

 

[PHILIPE]

Makes a good sense to take more Turbo fleet out of service now to speed up so that majority have SDO mods before a bulk of 150/1 go off to Northern in the next few weeks.

I understand they are on stop with SDO due problem obtaining parts.

 

[HowardGWR]

Appreciate everyone taking an interest in the thread I have done here and helping out with diagrams that need to be added/rectified to the thread. With the Turbos starting service to Weymouth and Warminster last week and to Southampton this week, I have been trying to keep on top of mainly the weekday diagrams. These are the current weekday Turbo diagrams as of now which I should think are correct. If there any diagrams that need adding or rectified in the thread (especially the weekday ones below) then please let me know via this thread.

Could you tell me how you come across this information please? I am an ignoramus as to what is available online and what not, except for RTT. I imagine your source is 'private' otherwise you would not have to reproduce the data on here for those who are interested.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Could you tell me how you come across this information please? I am an ignoramus as to what is available online and what not, except for RTT. I imagine your source is 'private' otherwise you would not have to reproduce the data on here for those who are interested.

Not private at all, I mainly find out through Facebook groups and sometimes from spotting myself. Also from people who inform me here.

 

[SJ21]

Can anybody confirm what was on 2M97 Southampton-Great Malvern today. Bashing this one next week, and I am still trying to get over being able to get on a Turbo at Salisbury.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Are there really 14 RHM modified 166s available at Bristol to work the 14 diagrams listed as current on a daily basis? Late last week there were still six unmodified 166s in use at Reading (201,215,217,218,220,221) and 209 was still in use at Reading at the start of last week although it has since disappeared so it may well have gone West. Assuming 209 has gone West, then it must have been modified very quickly to be in use already or else 14 units for 14 diagrams would at face value appear to be a bit tight.

 

[PHILIPE]

Regarding list from Sprinter Guy, after 2K43 Avonmouth to Bristol TM add:-

2E29 2041 Bristol TM to Worcester SH
2G99 2228 Worcester SH to Gloucester

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Can anybody confirm what was on 2M97 Southampton-Great Malvern today. Bashing this one next week, and I am still trying to get over being able to get on a Turbo at Salisbury.

That diagram is operated by an SWR 158.

 

[SJ21]

That diagram is operated by an SWR 158.

Let's hope it is one of the new livered ones then. Thank you

 

[HowardGWR]

Not private at all, I mainly find out through Facebook groups and sometimes from spotting myself. Also from people who inform me here.

Well, I just wonder how they get their info then? I did not realise that this is not people having access to diagrams in depots, but people watching (spotting) out on the line. Thanks anyway.

 

[50031]

Well, I just wonder how they get their info then? I did not realise that this is not people having access to diagrams in depots, but people watching (spotting) out on the line. Thanks anyway.

There are posters on here and other forums who work for GWR, so there is a combination of some in the know, providing info that they feel is appropriate, as well as observers and enthusiasts observing RTT and operations, like myself

 

[FGW_DID]

Are there really 14 RHM modified 166s available at Bristol to work the 14 diagrams listed as current on a daily basis? Late last week there were still six unmodified 166s in use at Reading (201,215,217,218,220,221) and 209 was still in use at Reading at the start of last week although it has since disappeared so it may well have gone West. Assuming 209 has gone West, then it must have been modified very quickly to be in use already or else 14 units for 14 diagrams would at face value appear to be a bit tight.

166209 is definitely in the West. 166s still at Reading as per your list (also 166211 but that’s currently at Long Marston for Mods)

 

[heart-of-wessex]

Went to Yarnbrook (near Trowbridge) for my hours lunch break between 1500 and 1600.

2E24 Weymouth - Gloucester: noted an un-ID 166 as it passed when I got there.
2O90 Great Malvern - Weymouth: was worked by SWR's 158888
2M13 Swindon - Westbury: worked by 166213

 

[swt_passenger]

Well, I just wonder how they get their info then? I did not realise that this is not people having access to diagrams in depots, but people watching (spotting) out on the line. Thanks anyway.

However, what has been neatly tabulated in post #164 isn't necessarily in internal diagram format, it can also be worked out by taking individual services on RTT in time order and making realistic assumptions based on incoming and outgoing platform allocations at the main stations at the ends of routes.