GWR HSTs - any unreserved coaches?

Discussion in 'Traction & Rolling Stock' started by trainophile, 5 Jul 2019.

  1. trainophile

    trainophile Established Member

    Messages:
    3,974
    Joined:
    28 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Hereford, Southport or on a train trip
    As per the title, are there any unreserved coaches on the Paddington to Penzance HSTs? The one I am on from Exeter to Liskeard is rammed and I am a trifle concerned about coming back this afternoon. Didn’t reserve seats as I’m on a Cornwall & Devon Rover.
     
  2. Registered users do not see these banners - join or log in today!

    Rail Forums

     
  3. SWT_USER

    SWT_USER Member

    Messages:
    649
    Joined:
    29 Aug 2010
    Location:
    Ashford Middx
    There are no Paddington to Penzance HST's anymore - so no.
     
  4. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

    Messages:
    5,254
    Joined:
    10 Apr 2013
    Location:
    UK
    The GWR HSTs are now on local journeys so are fully unreserved.
    I haven't worked out the unreserved coach on the 802s yet.
    Summer weekend trains in Devon and Cornwall can be really busy
     
  5. PaulHarding150

    PaulHarding150 Member

    Messages:
    733
    Joined:
    13 Feb 2011
    Location:
    Cardiff
    And the award for the most unhelpful post of the day goes to...

    It’s clear the opening poster is talking about a London to Penzance service, so why not be a bit more helpful?
     
  6. 43096

    43096 Established Member

    Messages:
    6,144
    Joined:
    23 Nov 2015
    By the same token, it has been very widely reported that the “last HST to Paddington” has run (not just the railway press, either) so the original post could be said to be “dumb post of the day”.
     
  7. trainophile

    trainophile Established Member

    Messages:
    3,974
    Joined:
    28 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Hereford, Southport or on a train trip
    Sorry :oops: , don’t know what I’m on but it’s a long train! I have moved to coach D and see that the back end of it has a lot of green lights (although all seats occupied) so I will head for that one on my return.
     
  8. trainophile

    trainophile Established Member

    Messages:
    3,974
    Joined:
    28 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Hereford, Southport or on a train trip
    That’s not very nice :p .
     
  9. PaulHarding150

    PaulHarding150 Member

    Messages:
    733
    Joined:
    13 Feb 2011
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Not everyone (member of this place or not) can keep up with every piece of news, nor be knowledgeable of every train type.

    Lots of posters on here lack certain shall we say social skills, so try not to take it on the chin.
     
  10. RPI

    RPI Member

    Messages:
    866
    Joined:
    6 Dec 2010
    If it's a 5 or 10 car the composite coaches (D or J) are unreserved, if it's a 9 car I can't actually remember (embarrasing as I work them every day).
    I've gotta say I still refer the padd services as HST's. A lot of the Penzance services are 9 cars now, just a couple of annoyingly timed 5 cars up in the morning.
     
  11. Bletchleyite

    Bletchleyite Veteran Member

    Messages:
    45,455
    Joined:
    20 Oct 2014
    Location:
    Up and down the south WCML (mostly)
    G on a 9 car, I'm in there now :)
     
  12. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Could even argue that as HST means High Speed Train and IETs are such that GWR still operate HSTs(!), what they don't operate now are InterCity 125s ;)
     
  13. Envoy

    Envoy Established Member

    Messages:
    1,335
    Joined:
    29 Aug 2014
    Which just goes to show that these new trains should all have had one common name for whoever operates them.
     
  14. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Isn't the generic name for them IETs - InterCity Express Trains - with the Nova and Azuma names being TOC-specific brands?
     
  15. trainophile

    trainophile Established Member

    Messages:
    3,974
    Joined:
    28 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Hereford, Southport or on a train trip
    Where are you? I am on one that has just left Plymouth heading east. Wouldn’t it be funny if...

    Edit: I don’t see anyone matching your self-description!
     
    Last edited: 5 Jul 2019
  16. FGW_DID

    FGW_DID Established Member

    Messages:
    1,844
    Joined:
    23 Jun 2011
    Location:
    Oxfordshire
    Nope, IET is what GWR decided to call them, although being as they came about from the Intercity Express Program it’s probably the closest to a common description. (Yes, I do appreciate that the 802s are an additional order and not as part of the IEP)

    The 80X series are from the Hitachi AT300 family.

    Exactly, especially seeing as they are looked after by the HSS Control team (High Speed & Sleeper)
     
  17. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

    Messages:
    5,254
    Joined:
    10 Apr 2013
    Location:
    UK
    Maybe that should be renamed, IES (Intercity Express & Sleeper) to reflect the new trains?
     
  18. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    What about IEPs, which they were being called a while back?

    So it kind of fits really!
     
  19. dmncf

    dmncf Member

    Messages:
    152
    Joined:
    4 Sep 2012
    I have also found the unreserved coach on a 9-car IET to be coach G. A member of staff told me this when I enquired before boarding, based on a folding leaflet she had showing diagrams of the coaches on 9- and 10-car trains, e.g. which coaches are first class, which coaches are unreserved. She agreed with me that the coach order was still rather unpredictable on 10-car trains.
     
  20. FGW_DID

    FGW_DID Established Member

    Messages:
    1,844
    Joined:
    23 Jun 2011
    Location:
    Oxfordshire
    IEP is the program, from which the trains derived so I can see why people started calling them that :rolleyes::rolleyes: but,

    You don’t go to the railway station to catch the 09.00 Program do you? :lol::lol:

    The Program now arriving at Platform 2 is the 10.30 program to London :lol::lol:

    Sounds rather silly when you put it in a sentence doesn’t it?
     
  21. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Not really, it's just like saying InterCity 125 instead of InterCity 125 train or Voyager against Voyager train. I don't see why using IEP which can be lengthened to InterCity Express Programme train (because that's what it is) is an issue in any way.
     
  22. 43096

    43096 Established Member

    Messages:
    6,144
    Joined:
    23 Nov 2015
    Just call them Super Hitachi Intercity Trains........
    ;)
     
  23. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Nothing super about them tbh from what I gather. Not inherently bad trains but extremely underwhelming as InterCity trains go.
     
  24. 43096

    43096 Established Member

    Messages:
    6,144
    Joined:
    23 Nov 2015
    There is more than a hint of irony in the name. And there's an acronym there if you look!
     
  25. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Oh, I noticed! ;)
     
  26. trainophile

    trainophile Established Member

    Messages:
    3,974
    Joined:
    28 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Hereford, Southport or on a train trip
    The one I came back in (coach G in a 9-car train) had the aircon far too high considering most people only had lightweight clothing on as it was scorching outside. Don’t know why they do that.
     
  27. hexagon789

    hexagon789 Established Member

    Messages:
    7,074
    Joined:
    2 Sep 2016
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Maybe the on-board staff can't adjust it?
     
  28. Hadders

    Hadders Established Member

    Messages:
    6,776
    Joined:
    27 Apr 2011
    To save fuel, money and the environment, I suspect....
     
  29. Bletchleyite

    Bletchleyite Veteran Member

    Messages:
    45,455
    Joined:
    20 Oct 2014
    Location:
    Up and down the south WCML (mostly)
    No, was about 2 hours earlier...
     
  30. 43096

    43096 Established Member

    Messages:
    6,144
    Joined:
    23 Nov 2015
    To be blunt, I'm struggling to see how someone who has posted over 3,600 times, including questions/comments about what is HST worked, is not aware that GWR don't run HSTs into Paddington any more.
     
  31. co-tr-paul

    co-tr-paul Member

    Messages:
    851
    Joined:
    8 Mar 2016
    Location:
    Helston, Cornwall
    Please DO NOT add sleeper ! TOTALLY DIFFERENT !!!?
     

Share This Page