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Any 802's diagrammed today? (weds 14th)
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GWR Intercity Express Train (IEP) initial diagrams & allocations
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802 diagrams as follows, all 5 Car Class 802:
IW950
5C48 15+08 LA – PLY
2C48 15 57 PLY – PNZ
2E89 19 16 PNZ – PLY
5Z89 21+24 PNZ – NP
IW951
5A72 05+10 LA – PLY w/IW960
1A72 05 53 PLY – PAD w/IW960
DETACH
1D20 09 50 PAD – OXF
5P26 11+07 OXF – OXF
1P26 12 01 OXF – PAD
5P26 13+20 PAD – NP
ATTACH
5C89 15+58 NP – PAD w/IW960
1C89 16 33 PAD – EXD w/IW960
1A98 19 55 EXD – PAD w/IW960
5A98 23+03 PAD – NP w/IW960
IW952
5C71 06+06 NP – PAD w/IW961
1C71 06 35 PAD – PNZ w/IW961
1A88 12 04 PNZ – PAD w/IW961
5A88 17+38 PAD – NP w/IW961
IW954
5C80 11+20 NP – PAD w/IW963
1C80 12 03 PAD – PNZ w/IW963
1A35 17 42 PNZ – PAD w/IW963
5A35 00+06 PAD – NP w/IW963
IW955
5C04 07+06 NP – PAD w/IW964
1C04 07 30 PAD – PNZ w/IW964
1A93 14 00 PNZ – PAD w/IW964
1C96 20 03 PAD – PLY w/IW964
5C96 00+42 PLY – LA w/IW964
IW960
5A72 05+10 LA – PLY w/IW951
1A72 05 53 PLY – PAD w/IW951
DETACH
5A72 09+32 PAD – NP
ATTACH
5C89 15+58 NP – PAD w/IW951
1C89 16 33 PAD – EXD w/IW951
1A98 19 55 EXD – PAD w/IW951
5A98 23+03 PAD – NP w/IW951
IW961
5C71 06+06 NP – PAD w/IW952
1C71 06 35 PAD – PNZ w/IW952
1A88 12 04 PNZ – PAD w/IW952
5A88 17+38 PAD – NP w/IW952
IW963
5C80 11+20 NP – PAD w/IW963
1C80 12 03 PAD – PNZ w/IW963
1A35 17 42 PNZ – PAD w/IW963
5A35 00+06 PAD – NP w/IW963
IW964
5C04 07+06 NP – PAD w/IW955
1C04 07 30 PAD – PNZ w/IW955
1A93 14 00 PNZ – PAD w/IW955
1C96 20 03 PAD – PLY w/IW955
5C96 00+42 PLY – LA w/IW955
PAD = London Paddington
NP = North Pole IEP Depot
OXF = Oxford
EXD = Exeter St David’s
LA = Laira T&RSMD
PLY = Plymouth
PNZ = Penzance
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Railperf
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Thanks. Are any 802's out this coming Saturday?
Yes looks like 4 diagrams (two pairs) for this Saturday 17/11
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which ones please?
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Thanks. Will look out for them.
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The current status for three of today's nine 802 diagrams;
09:50 London Paddington to Oxford due 10:49 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 09:55
12:01 Oxford to London Paddington due 12:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 09:55
06:35 London Paddington to Penzance due 11:36 will be terminated at Newbury.
It will no longer call at Taunton, Exeter St Davids, Plymouth, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, St Erth and Penzance.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 07:52
12:04 Penzance to London Paddington due 17:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 08:45
09:50 London Paddington to Oxford due 10:49 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 09:55
12:01 Oxford to London Paddington due 12:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 09:55
06:35 London Paddington to Penzance due 11:36 will be terminated at Newbury.
It will no longer call at Taunton, Exeter St Davids, Plymouth, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, St Erth and Penzance.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 07:52
12:04 Penzance to London Paddington due 17:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 08:45
The 09.50 & 12.01 are on the same diagram (IW951). Paired with IW960, should have split at Paddington but had issues.
The 06.35 & 12.04 are on the same diagram (IW952). Engine issues so terminated at Newbury.
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And presumably IW952 paired with IW961 unless the 06.35 was a single 5 or 9 car unit?
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Are any 9-car 802s assigned any diagrams yet?Als, how many 802s are currently available to cover those diagrams. I counted 9 diagrams in total
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Would they have let 006 and 011 continue to Oxford? Or did the uncoupling attempt cause other issues?
I don’t think any have been issued yet. Isn’t 802101 the only one handed over and available for traffic. It quite often deputises for a 10 car. I don’t know how many 802 5 cars have arrived. The highest I’ve seen noted is 802016 and probably because that one was the one involved in the big dewirement.
Can only presume that as 011 was due to layover at North Pole while 006 worked to Oxford and back that Hitachi wanted them both back on Depot. I know 9 cars work up thru Oxford but would a 10 car cause issues?
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Are any 9-car 802s assigned any diagrams yet?Als, how many 802s are currently available to cover those diagrams. I counted 9 diagrams in total
Seems to have been a bad morning in general on gwr. A quick scan of real-time trains seems to indicate delays on most inbound and outbound services.
I saw a 9-car in P4 at Oxford the other day, and it looked as if there was enough room for a 10th car in the platform there at least …
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They can fit 2x 800 5 car set at Oxford.
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Am I right in suspecting the units terminated at Newbury were stuck in turn around mode?
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Will 1A80 (on a saturday) be an IET tomorrow?
Diagrams already show that one should be running yet last week a HST showed up, although thankfully the displays mentioned missing a coach H and J.
Diagrams already show that one should be running yet last week a HST showed up, although thankfully the displays mentioned missing a coach H and J.
See post #1568 above for the services that are 802s.
Just to confirm though, 1A80 is on an HST diagram tomorrow.
Peter Mugridge
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Yes - based on what I have seen on recent trips out, the London end unit - 802 011 in this case - would run to North Pole and be coupled to another 802 and would have formed the 12.03 Paddington to Penzance.
Do we know what the 12.03 ran with today?
If you look at the diagrams that @JN114 provided at #1562, 006 & 011 would have been recoupled at NP and then worked the 1C89 16.33 Paddington - Exeter.
However that's not to say that Hitachi don't swap the sets, between diagrams, when on depot. Obviously a lot depends on engineering requirements or yard constraints.
Melancholia
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10 car IETs are currently not allowed to terminate at Oxford until a resolution is found out on how station staff at Oxford are to terminate the DOO trains.
Peter Mugridge
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I was just reporting on what seems to be actually happening - at least on the two occasions on which I have observed both the 09.50 and 12.03. Not sure if it's relevant but on both occasions it was a Monday.
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Thanks v much @FGW_DID . I caught the 2003 pad to plymouth ..and indeed it was a pair of 802's 006 and 021 iirc. Was it 800 027 on the 1752 pad oxf?@Railperf
(IW952/IW961)
North Pole > 1C04 > 1A91 > 1C96 > LA
(IW958/IW967)
LA > 1A77 > 1C81 > 1A35 > NP
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1c04& 1a93 is hst Monday-friday this week.
1c96 is unit off NP
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