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GWR operating short 'HSTGTi' sets (see diagrams section for workings)

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So does this mean that now only GW16 is left to come down or could there possibly also be some spare coaches which may need to come down too??
GW16 plus three spare vehicles (two TS and a TGS) still to come.
 
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Was this more stock being moved to Laira?
 

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43153 with 49116, 48146, 48147, 48148 & 43171 going home on 5V84 10:12 DONWKSWAB to LAIRA TMD 05/05/21

Any idea what the original coach numbers were please?
Here you go 49116 ex 44002, 48146 ex 42074, 48147 ex 24081, 48148 ex 42071,
 

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Not seeing a diagrams thread, could someone direct me to it OR could they supply me with the planned May 2021 TT diagrams?
 

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Ah, OK, thanks for the info. I didn't realise any were planned to be 2+3. Are they for a specific duty?
There’s no long term plan for 2+3. They’ve cut some sets down to match with spare vehicles to get an extra set out. Once GW16 appears they should all go back to 2+4.
 

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Is that it for the GWR sets? Can't remember how many sets were planned.
14 sets in total, plus various spare vehicles. I think there’s three vehicles still to come, but no full set. I wouldn’t be surprised if an extra set was formed from the spares, particularly whilst the 80x fiasco is ongoing.
 

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14 sets in total, plus various spare vehicles. I think there’s three vehicles still to come, but no full set. I wouldn’t be surprised if an extra set was formed from the spares, particularly whilst the 80x fiasco is ongoing.

From what I can see on GW's books, I too wouldn't be surprised to see another set being formed up and sent up to Doncaster soon too.
 

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From what I can see on GW's books, I too wouldn't be surprised to see another set being formed up and sent up to Doncaster soon too.
I was thinking more of the spares that have already been, or are being converted. The first batch included 2 x TGS and 2 x TSD spares, the current batch has 1 x TGS and 2 x TS as spares. 7 vehicles spare for 14 sets is massively excessive, so I would not be surprised to see an extra set formed with the spares left as 2 x TGS and 1 x TSD.
 

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I was thinking more of the spares that have already been, or are being converted. The first batch included 2 x TGS and 2 x TSD spares, the current batch has 1 x TGS and 2 x TS as spares. 7 vehicles spare for 14 sets is massively excessive, so I would not be surprised to see an extra set formed with the spares left as 2 x TGS and 1 x TSD.
Ah, that's a good point. I was thinking more on the lines of using up the un-converted vehicles, as a 3 coach set sans TGS seems to have appeared at Laira. Converting those additional vehicles would allow for at least 2 extra sets using the 2 TGS + TSDs (1 x 4 car and 1 x 3 car).
 

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If there will be a long term small shortage of units for Paddington expresses then culling an odd Penzance/Plymouth train at Exeter on arrival ex London to save sets with an Intercity style short set HST connection further West could be justified in the short to medium term. That's what was done on a bigger scale during the first 5 or 6 days of the crack issues anyway.
 

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There is no 48136, 48137. Just 48149, 48150 and 49117 to come
Incorrect I am afraid. There is no 48138 and 48139 but 48136 and 48137 are still to come.

GW12 and 13 will be formed as follows:
GW12: 49112, 48136, 48134, 48137
GW13: 49113, 48149, 48135, 48150

49117 will be the only "spare" vehicle.
 

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There is no 48136, 48137. Just 48149, 48150 and 49117 to come
There's two additional vehicles been added to the programme by the looks of it. 48136/137 are additional. It would be interesting to know when that was approved.

48136 ex 42570
48137 ex 42582
48149 ex 42087
48150 ex 42580
49117 ex 44042
 
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