GWR timetable recast 2018?

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cactustwirly

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Someone inside GWR may know the patterns for London-Newbury/Bedwyn, but as I pointed out back up the thread, the number of through trains per day between Newbury and Paddington will rise from about 40 now to 50+ from January. Probably including some 387s on extra Paddington duties for the peaks.



It may be neat and tidy to your mind but, the same as Westbury, would require several more IETs to operate and, bar anecdotes, I have yet to see anyone set out a compelling case for so many extra trains all day west of Newbury/Bedwyn - where are all the passengers to justify it going to come from? Just as in Westbury, if people in Frome were given a choice between lots of London trains or a better service to Bath, Bristol and perhaps Swindon, I reckon the latter destinations would win by a country mile.



People from Plymouth and Cornwall, the overwhelming majority of whom will be traveling to/from Reading and London, think it is a very good idea. I believe the Paignton services are going to be extensions of Exeter semi-fasts anyway. GWR haven't come up with the service pattern without looking long and hard at where people are going to and from.

The Paignton & Tauton extras at the moment are the xx33 off Paddington, which is the xx03 from Reading.
It's very likely the new Exeter Semis will be on this path.
I agree with you, I went on an ex Taunton Stopper a few weeks ago and it was very empty all the way to Reading
 
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This didn’t happen so having 800s to Bedwyn is purely a political move I would say.
Not if you live in Kintbury, Hungerford or Bedwyn, and commute to Reading or points east.

hence most passengers driving to a station from Marlborough and rest of the surrounding area use Bedwyn

I was in Bedwyn on Tuesday of this week (by road) and having had a look at the turnback siding (see posts on electrification thread) had a drive past the Station. The (small) station Car Park was full and many of the surrounding residential roads were full of parked cars. Noticeably a lot busier than when I normally visit at weekends (by train/bike!).
 

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Not if you live in Kintbury, Hungerford or Bedwyn, and commute to Reading or points east.



I was in Bedwyn on Tuesday of this week (by road) and having had a look at the turnback siding (see posts on electrification thread) had a drive past the Station. The (small) station Car Park was full and many of the surrounding residential roads were full of parked cars. Noticeably a lot busier than when I normally visit at weekends (by train/bike!).
Bedwyn could really do with more parking as it could be suppressing demand, which put me off using it when I lived in the area as I knew I would have difficulties parking my car. Not to mention lack of westbound connections.
 

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Bedwyn could really do with more parking as it could be suppressing demand, which put me off using it when I lived in the area as I knew I would have difficulties parking my car. Not to mention lack of westbound connections.

Surely you would use Pewsey for traveling westbound?
 

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More parking at Bedwyn might be nice, but where on earth would it go? The station is hemmed on one side by the village and the River Dun and the canal on the other.
 

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More parking at Bedwyn might be nice, but where on earth would it go? The station is hemmed on one side by the village and the River Dun and the canal on the other.
Last time I was there looked like they could have gone further up with more parking spaces on the London-bound side. Other than that you would be stuck for more parking.
 

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Wonder if GWR will publish a provisional timetable to view before they change all the Bristol/South Wales to London services before the Jan 19 timetable changes?
 

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Wonder if GWR will publish a provisional timetable to view before they change all the Bristol/South Wales to London services before the Jan 19 timetable changes?

Possibly but not until November December time. This will pretty much be what is said in the franchise book that says Dec 18 it hasn’t happened yet. It isn’t 100% but that is the best way to see it.
 

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Possibly but not until November December time. This will pretty much be what is said in the franchise book that says Dec 18 it hasn’t happened yet. It isn’t 100% but that is the best way to see it.
Just want to see the times they be leaving and calling points of fast services between Bristol Parkway (South Wales in peaks) non stop to London to plan trips in the future.
 

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GWR is in the middle of discussions with Network Rail, so you won't be seeing anything much any time soon. User groups and other stakeholders are being consulted about draft versions of timetables as part of the process.

In terms of calling patterns, the new third South Wales service per hour in the peaks should be running non-stop between Parkway and Paddington in both directions, as will the extra off-peak Bristol Temple Meads services that are going to operate via Parkway.

There are diagrams of the future calling patterns for long-distance services in this GWR presentation from 2015.

http://travelwatchsouthwest.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Travelwatch-Presentation-October-2015.pdf
 
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