GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[HowardGWR]

However, what has been neatly tabulated in post #164 isn't necessarily in internal diagram format, it can also be worked out by taking individual services on RTT in time order and making realistic assumptions based on incoming and outgoing platform allocations at the main stations at the ends of routes.

Yes of course, one could so interpolate, indeed. I had just wondered where this amazing source of data was; not now, as 50031 has explained it.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Anyone know what the workings of this diagram are after 2T90?

2G80 0715 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T90 0910 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads

When it terminates at Bristol Temple Meads, it goes to St Phillips Marsh. Anyone able to tell me if it does another service after this?

 

[SWTrainspottin]

These two diagrams are due to start Turbo operation today. I have noticed there is no 9O05 and 9M98 displayed on RTT and instead are the usual 2O05 and 2M98 with the second diagram below.

2G79 0601 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2O70 0649 Worcester Shrub Hill - Weymouth
2V90 1110 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C20 1441 Gloucester - Westbury
2F96 1711 Westbury - Warminster
2E27 1728 Warminster - Great Malvern
2T99 2136 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C09 0845 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
2F94 1008 Westbury - Warminster
2C12 1025 Warminser - Westbury
(9)O05 1111 Westbury - Southampton Central
(9)M98 1227 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2F99 1648 Great Malvern - Westbury
2C92 2038 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads
2K46 2137 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K49 2220 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[PHILIPE]

These two diagrams are due to start Turbo operation today. I have noticed there is no 9O05 and 9M98 displayed on RTT and instead are the usual 2O05 and 2M98 with the second diagram below. @83G/84D are you able to confirm what is happening with these two diagrams please?

2G79 0601 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2O70 0649 Worcester Shrub Hill - Weymouth
2V90 1110 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C20 1441 Gloucester - Westbury
2F96 1711 Westbury - Warminster
2E27 1728 Warminster - Great Malvern
2T99 2136 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C09 0845 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
2F94 1008 Westbury - Warminster
2C12 1025 Warminser - Westbury
(9)O05 1111 Westbury - Southampton Central
(9)M98 1227 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2F99 1648 Great Malvern - Westbury
2C92 2038 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads
2K46 2137 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K49 2220 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads

Today was the Planned date but this has slipped. Will go over when enough and suitable Turbos available. I think the postings are a little confusing here as STP Diagrams are being posted rather than wait until the LTP Diagrams are confirmed. You're still doing a good job though

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Today was the Planned date but this has slipped. Will go over when enough and suitable Turbos available. I think the postings are a little confusing here as STP Diagrams are being posted rather than wait until the LTP Diagrams are confirmed. You're still doing a good job though

Thanks.

 

[PHILIPE]

Anyone know what the workings of this diagram are after 2T90?

2G80 0715 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T90 0910 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads

When it terminates at Bristol Temple Meads, it goes to St Phillips Marsh. Anyone able to tell me if it does another service after this?

Carries on to Westbury now as normal but still split service. Would go to Swindon later

 

[Parallel]

Anyone know if 16.40 Gloucester to Weymouth is still booked a 166? Tuesday and Wednesday were both 1x150, however today it was formed of 1x150 + 1x158!! Have GWR got their random unit generator fixed?

 

[PHILIPE]

Anyone know if 16.40 Gloucester to Weymouth is still booked a 166? Tuesday and Wednesday were both 1x150, however today it was formed of 1x150 + 1x158!! Have GWR got their random unit generator fixed?

Journey Check has been saying 2 vice 3 yesterday and on earlier trips on it's diagram today so still Turbo.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Carries on to Westbury now as normal but still split service. Would go to Swindon later

See now it forms 2F97 1049 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury then onto Westbury DMU Sidings. I believe it's next working is meant to be 2C17 1438 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads so could it be going to Swindon this week as a change due to the works between Westbury and Warminster or is it booked to go to Swindon in it's diagram?

 

[PHILIPE]

See now it forms 2F97 1049 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury then onto Westbury DMU Sidings. I believe it's next working is meant to be 2C17 1438 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads so could it be going to Swindon this week as a change due to the works between Westbury and Warminster or is it booked to go to Swindon in it's diagram?

Unless it has changed since pre-January would work 2M12 1506 Westbury to Swindon and then Golden Valley

 

[387star]

When will turbos replace the superior 158s on the Portsmouth to Cardiff line ?

When if ever will they be cleared for Brighton ?
Do the turbos have slots for seat reservations?

 

[mic505]

They are no plans for the Turbos to operate east to Brighton. I don't know why, but to Portsmouth from the December 2018 timetable change, hopefully.

 

[Parallel]

They are no plans for the Turbos to operate east to Brighton. I don't know why, but to Portsmouth from the December 2018 timetable change, hopefully.

I guess a 158 will probably run those services?

 

[mic505]

Yes, most likely with 150/2's as cover or fleet strengthening.

 

[387star]

The Brighton service will surely be dropped or moved to SWR. I can't see a different type of stock being used for a two train a day service going forward.

 

[PHILIPE]

The Brighton service will surely be dropped or moved to SWR. I can't see a different type of stock being used for a two train a day service going forward.

Nothing can be done before the end of the franchise and all the West Turbos will be in service on the Portsmouth route before then

 

[swt_passenger]

The latest GW franchise consultation does intend to drop the Brighton extensions.

The current enhancement delivery programme does include Portsmouth to Brighton.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Is this Saturday diagram now Turbo operated?
2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth
2V88 0853 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C18 1242 Gloucester - Frome
2F95 1500 Frome – Warminster
2E25 1528 Warminster - Great Malvern
2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Looks like these are the current SUNDAY diagrams. If anything needs adding or corrected, then please let me know.

2E38 1211 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T39 1436 Worcester Shrub Hill - Weston-super-Mare
2O94 1709 Weston-super-Mare - Weymouth
2V94 2009 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads

2O74 0925 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth
5O74 1225 Weymouth - Weymouth Jersey Siding
5V83 1340 Weymouth Jersey Siding - Weymouth
2V83 1415 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads

2C05 0830 Westbury - Warminster
2C68 0847 Warminster - Bristol Temple Meads
5C68 0947 Bristol Temple Meads - St Phillips Marsh TMD
5O96 2005 St Phillips Marsh TMD - Bristol Temple Meads
2O96 2048 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth

2E34 0925 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T35 1139 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads
2E42 1441 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T43 1640 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads

2C71 1022 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton
2M38 1136 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
2C77 1305 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton
2M60 1519 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
2E44 1641 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T45 1840 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads

2T33 1004 Cheltenham Spa - Taunton
2M57 1334 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
2C79 1505 Bristol Temple Meads - Weston-super-Mare
2K36 1610 Weston-super-Mare - Severn Beach
2K37 1742 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads

2K14 0858 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2K15 0936 Severn Beach - Bristol Temple Meads
2K16 1023 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K17 1052 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
5K17 1140 Bristol Temple Meads - St Phillips Marsh TMD
5K24 1235 St Phillips Marsh TMD - Bristol Temple Meads
2K24 1323 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K25 1352 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K28 1423 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K29 1450 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K30 1523 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K31 1552 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K34 1623 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K35 1652 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads
2K38 1753 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K39 1822 Avonmouth - Taunton
2M72 2024 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads

From February 25
2K14 0858 Bristol Temple Meads - Severn Beach
2C71 0946 Severn Beach - Taunton
2M38 1136 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
5M38 1251 Bristol Temple Meads - Bristol High Level Siding
5C81 1540 Bristol High Level Siding - Bristol Temple Meads
2C81 1555 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton
2M66 1719 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads
2E46 1837 Bristol Temple Meads - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T47 2038 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads
2E50 2230 Bristol Temple Meads - Gloucester

 

[ValleyLines142]

Let's hope it is one of the new livered ones then. Thank you

It isn't. It has just gone past Dean on the 0823 Soton to Great Malvern (2M97) and was a sea of red and white!

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Is this Saturday diagram now Turbo operated?
2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth
2V88 0853 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C18 1242 Gloucester - Frome
2F95 1500 Frome – Warminster
2E25 1528 Warminster - Great Malvern
2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

Can confirm this diagram was (double) Turbo operated last Saturday. Should be a booked diagram from now.

 

[PHILIPE]

Can confirm this diagram was (double) Turbo operated last Saturday. Should be a booked diagram from now.

6 Cars on 0853 ex Weymouth today

 

[SWTrainspottin]

6 Cars on 0853 ex Weymouth today

Assume it' booked to split at Westbury on it's return 2C18 working.

 

[PHILIPE]

Assume it' booked to split at Westbury on it's return 2C18 working.

It did, but firstly they split at Bristol TM while one went off to PM for fuel and to avoid 6 cars between Bristol TM and Gloucester and return and then joined up again. That's what happened going on the assumption that fuel would have been an issue when looking at the rest of their workings..

 

[SWTrainspottin]

It did, but firstly they split at Bristol TM while one went off to PM for fuel and to avoid 6 cars between Bristol TM and Gloucester and return and then joined up again. That's what happened going on the assumption that fuel would have been an issue when looking at the rest of their workings..

Have been looking through these two diagrams and looks like this diagram splits at Westbury while working 2O97 to work 2E28.

2G80 0715 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T90 0910 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads
2F97 1049 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury
5F97 1150 Westbury - Westbury DMU Sidings
5C17 1415 Westbury DMU Sidings - Westbury
2C17 1438 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads
5C17 1535 Bristol Temple Meads - Bristol High Level Siding
5O97 1723 Bristol High Level Siding - Bristol Temple Meads
2O97 1749 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth
5O97 2040 Weymouth - Westbury DMU Siding

2E28 1846 Westbury - Cheltenham Spa
2T47 2102 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Temple Meads

And then this diagram splits at Westbury to work 2M12.

2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth
2E20 0853 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C18 1242 Gloucester - Frome
2F95 1500 Frome - Warminster
2E25 1528 Warminster – Great Malvern
2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

2M12 1506 Westbury - Swindon
2G87 1614 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B97 1801 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G91 2000 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B98 2120 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G93 2241 Swindon - Gloucester

 

[PHILIPE]

Have been looking through these two diagrams and looks like this diagram splits at Westbury while working 2O97 to work 2E28.

2G80 0715 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2T90 0910 Worcester Shrub Hill - Bristol Temple Meads
2F97 1049 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury
5F97 1150 Westbury - Westbury DMU Sidings
5C17 1415 Westbury DMU Sidings - Westbury
2C17 1438 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads
5C17 1535 Bristol Temple Meads - Bristol High Level Siding
5O97 1723 Bristol High Level Siding - Bristol Temple Meads
2O97 1749 Bristol Temple Meads - Weymouth
5O97 2040 Weymouth - Westbury DMU Siding

2E28 1846 Westbury - Cheltenham Spa
2T47 2102 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Temple Meads

And then this diagram splits at Westbury to work 2M12.

2O66 0654 Westbury - Weymouth
2E20 0853 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C18 1242 Gloucester - Frome
2F95 1500 Frome - Warminster
2E25 1528 Warminster – Great Malvern
2T97 1850 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

2M12 1506 Westbury - Swindon
2G87 1614 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B97 1801 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G91 2000 Swindon - Cheltenham Spa
2B98 2120 Cheltenham Spa - Swindon
2G93 2241 Swindon - Gloucester

These change week to week, yesterday the first one was a 15x and went onto PM after 2C17, 2x 15x off PM worked 2O97, split at Westbury for Cheltenham, and the other returned from Weymouth attd to 2V94 2021 Weymouth to Bristol TM, the work you are showing seems to be for next week. Engineering Work is a major factor at weekends. Somebody posted 166 Diagrams on the WNXX Forum but another poster (in the know, presumably) said that they were wasting their time and wait until things had settled down. They change from week to week.

 

[PHILIPE]

These two diagrams are due to start Turbo operation today. I have noticed there is no 9O05 and 9M98 displayed on RTT and instead are the usual 2O05 and 2M98 with the second diagram below. @83G/84D are you able to confirm what is happening with these two diagrams please?

2G79 0601 Gloucester - Worcester Shrub Hill
2O70 0649 Worcester Shrub Hill - Weymouth
2V90 1110 Weymouth - Gloucester
2C20 1441 Gloucester - Westbury
2F96 1711 Westbury - Warminster
2E27 1728 Warminster - Great Malvern
2T99 2136 Great Malvern - Bristol Temple Meads

2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C09 0845 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
2F94 1008 Westbury - Warminster
2C12 1025 Warminser - Westbury
(9)O05 1111 Westbury - Southampton Central
(9)M98 1227 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2F99 1648 Great Malvern - Westbury
2C92 2038 Westbury - Bristol Temple Meads
2K46 2137 Bristol Temple Meads - Avonmouth
2K49 2220 Avonmouth - Bristol Temple Meads

These haven't yet gone over to Turbo

 

[50031]

Yes, I haven't seen any Turbos on weekdays at Cam & Dursley between 1000 and 1600

 

[SWTrainspottin]

These haven't yet gone over to Turbo

I know

 

[SWTrainspottin]

This diagram has now gone over to Turbo operation.

2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C09 0845 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
2F94 1008 Westbury - Warminster
2C12 1025 Warminster - Westbury
2O05 1111 Westbury - Southampton Central
2M98 1227 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2F99 1648 Great Malvern - Westbury