GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[PHILIPE]

This diagram has now gone over to Turbo operation.

2D03 0533 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway
2C09 0845 Bristol Parkway - Westbury
2F94 1008 Westbury - Warminster
2C12 1025 Warminster - Westbury
2O05 1111 Westbury - Southampton Central
2M98 1227 Southampton Central - Great Malvern
2F99 1648 Great Malvern - Westbury

You can add:-
2C92 20 38 Westbury to Bristol T M
2K46 21 37 Bristol T M to Avonmouth
2K49 22 20 Avonmouth to Bristol TM

To reach Weymoutn:-
2O98 20 49 Bristol T M to Wemouth formed off:-
2K41 19 32 Avonmouth to Bristol T M (which you are showing on 2034 to AVN but this has been duplicated)

 

[SWTrainspottin]

You can add:-
2C92 20 38 Westbury to Bristol T M
2K46 21 37 Bristol T M to Avonmouth
2K49 22 20 Avonmouth to Bristol TM

To reach Weymoutn:-
2O98 20 49 Bristol T M to Wemouth formed off:-
2K41 19 32 Avonmouth to Bristol T M (which you are showing on 2034 to AVN but this has been duplicated)

Thanks, changed

 

[Parallel]

No Turbo on the 16.40 Gloucester - Weymouth all week, this week. Was a mixture of 158s and 150s. Even had a double 150/1 yesterday which is rare now in GWR territory!

 

[PHILIPE]

No Turbo on the 16.40 Gloucester - Weymouth all week, this week. Was a mixture of 158s and 150s. Even had a double 150/1 yesterday which is rare now in GWR territory!

There seems to have been about 3 down every day

 

[SWTrainspottin]

No Turbo on the 16.40 Gloucester - Weymouth all week, this week. Was a mixture of 158s and 150s. Even had a double 150/1 yesterday which is rare now in GWR territory!

Presume it's no longer a booked Turbo diagram or just an unavailability of Turbos like @PHILIPE said.

 

[PHILIPE]

Presume it's no longer a booked Turbo diagram or just an unavailability of Turbos like @PHILIPE said.

Just unavailability because Journey Check reports 2 vice 3

 

[Parallel]

There seems to be quite a few mentions of trains not stopping at local door only stations recently in the West due to ‘a fault on this train’ - does this mean that some Turbos have not been fitted with the additional local door control, or has it just malfunctioned on some units?

 

[PHILIPE]

There seems to be quite a few mentions of trains not stopping at local door only stations recently in the West due to ‘a fault on this train’ - does this mean that some Turbos have not been fitted with the additional local door control, or has it just malfunctioned on some units?

Not fitted but this is the terminology GWR use

 

[swt_passenger]

Not fitted but this is the terminology GWR use

I expect there's a limited drop down menu of options - and no-one will have thought "planned modification not yet undertaken" was needed...

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Another Turbo operated diagram on weekdays:

2C08 0624 Cheltenham Spa - Westbury
2E18 0845 Westbury - Gloucester
2O89 1042 Gloucester - Weymouth
2E26 1508 Weymouth - Gloucester
5E26 1837 Gloucester - Gloucester Carriage Sidings
5T47 1953 Gloucester Carriage Sidings - Cheltenham Spa
2T47 2020 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[PHILIPE]

Another Turbo operated diagram on weekdays:

2C08 0624 Cheltenham Spa - Westbury
2E18 0845 Westbury - Gloucester
2O89 1042 Gloucester - Weymouth
2E26 1508 Weymouth - Gloucester
5E26 1837 Gloucester - Gloucester Carriage Sidings
5T47 1953 Gloucester Carriage Sidings - Cheltenham Spa
2T47 2020 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Temple Meads

Wait until next week. I've got a feeling this could be in connection with Cheltenham Races as 2E26 shown to attach Bristol TM.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Shuttles between Bristol Temple Meads and Chippenham operating this Saturday, both diagrams should be Turbo operated. However, one or both of the diagrams could be substituted for a Sprinter due to a recent shortage of available Turbos.

1T07 0730 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T08 0811 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T11 0930 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T12 1011 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T15 1129 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T16 1211 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T19 1330 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T20 1411 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T23 1530 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T24 1611 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T27 1730 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T28 1811 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T31 1930 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T32 2011 Chippenham - Taunton
5T32 2207 Taunton - Bristol Temple Meads

1T09 0830 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T10 0911 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T13 1030 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T14 1117 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T17 1230 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T18 1311 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T21 1430 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T22 1511 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T25 1630 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T26 1711 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T29 1830 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T30 1911 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T33 2040 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T34 2116 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads
1T35 2157 Bristol Temple Meads - Chippenham
1T36 2247 Chippenham - Bristol Temple Meads

 

[PHILIPE]

I think things seem to have settled down now following a transitional period and changes week by week so just want to check a couple of things out yet and will come back..

 

[PHILIPE]

You can add:-
2C92 20 38 Westbury to Bristol T M
2K46 21 37 Bristol T M to Avonmouth
2K49 22 20 Avonmouth to Bristol TM

To reach Weymoutn:-
2O98 20 49 Bristol T M to Wemouth formed off:-
2K41 19 32 Avonmouth to Bristol T M (which you are showing on 2034 to AVN but this has been duplicated)

The following seem to have changed from 25/03. SW Trainspottin. I have taken the details from Post #1 to refer to:-

0524 CNM to WEY = No is 2 Car 15x
0715 GCR to GMV = No is 2 Car 15x
0704 WSB to CNM = No is SWR hire

Addnl - 2G79 0600 Gloucester to Worcester etc.. until 2T99 2136 Great Malvern to Bristol TM
2M02 0517 Gloucester to Weymouth etc.. until 2V93 1730 Weymouth to Bristol TM
2O66 0654 Westbury to Wemouth etc.. until 2T97 1850 Grest Malvern to Bristol TM

Also existing ones:-
After 1845 Severn Beach to Bristol TM works 2C30 19 49 Bristol TM to Frome & 2A87 2102 Frome to Westbury
2U28 ex Taunton runs through to Cardiff Cen then 2C34 2100 Cardiff Cen to Westbury

 

[Parallel]

I’ve noted that on JourneyCheck - GWR now use a message when a train can not stop at local door station.

The other day showed two Bristol bound trains in a row not stopping at Chetnole and Thornford leaving approx 6 hours between services there! Also Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh getting a raw deal at the moment.

 

[PHILIPE]

I’ve noted that on JourneyCheck - GWR now use a message when a train can not stop at local door station.

The other day showed two Bristol bound trains in a row not stopping at Chetnole and Thornford leaving approx 6 hours between services there! Also Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh getting a raw deal at the moment.

Cardiff to Portsmouths often call specially at Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh if a Turbo has been unable to call.

 

[cactustwirly]

I’ve noted that on JourneyCheck - GWR now use a message when a train can not stop at local door station.

The other day showed two Bristol bound trains in a row not stopping at Chetnole and Thornford leaving approx 6 hours between services there! Also Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh getting a raw deal at the moment.

I experienced this first hand last weekend, ended up spending an extra hour at Avoncliff.
It's unacceptable for GWR to diagram 166s for these services when not all of them have the door mods.

 

[cactustwirly]

Cardiff to Portsmouths often call specially at Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh if a Turbo has been unable to call.

Not in my experience, passengers are left to fend for themselves, and are getting fed up with the unreliable service.

 

[Dai Corner]

Not in my experience, passengers are left to fend for themselves, and are getting fed up with the unreliable service.

Out of interest, did you use the Help Point and if so did they offer to send a taxi?

 

[cactustwirly]

Out of interest, did you use the Help Point and if so did they offer to send a taxi?

Yes, but they told me to wait for the 1404 (1304 didn't stop)

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

I experienced this first hand last weekend, ended up spending an extra hour at Avoncliff.
It's unacceptable for GWR to diagram 166s for these services when not all of them have the door mods.

What would you prefer, GWR cancel the service entirely?

 

[PHILIPE]

Agree. Turbos are now the predominant type of unit radiating from Bristol so if not allocated to a job without SDO, they would be hanging around doing nothing and trains being cancelled.

 

[cactustwirly]

What would you prefer, GWR cancel the service entirely?

Can't they swap the 150 diagrams around so all the Weymouth's are 150s?

It's a daily occurance, it's not good enough!

 

[Clarence Yard]

Can't they swap the 150 diagrams around so all the Weymouth's are 150s?

It's a daily occurance, it's not good enough!

No - not enough cl.150 units now available to GWR.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Turbos around Westbury today (so far)

166210 on 2O89 1319 Westbury - Weymouth. Booked next on 2V26 1508 Weymouth - Westbury then 2O97 1840 Westbury - Weymouth.

166207 on 2M12 1404 Frome - Swindon.

166203 worked 2M98 1227 Southampton Central - Westbury, now stabled in Westbury DMU Sidings.

166209 worked 2V24 1308 Weymouth - Westbury. Booked next on 2O90 1538 Westbury - Weymouth then 2V93 1730 Weymouth - Westbury.

 

[Parallel]

There seems to be a mixture of Turbos and 158s working the Cardiff To Great Malvern services at the moment too!

 

[PHILIPE]

There seems to be a mixture of Turbos and 158s working the Cardiff To Great Malvern services at the moment too!

And a pairing of 158766 and 150232

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Anyone have any more diagrams that I can add to this which are not displayed? Thanks.

 

[PHILIPE]

Anyone have any more diagrams that I can add to this which are not displayed? Thanks.

There are 14 x 166 Diagrams at the moment and I have quoted 15. On current form delete 0733 Westbury to Swindon etc. which has seemingly gone back to 2 Cars (15x)

 

[SWTrainspottin]

There are 14 x 166 Diagrams at the moment and I have quoted 15. On current form delete 0733 Westbury to Swindon etc. which has seemingly gone back to 2 Cars (15x)

I believe that diagram is still booked a Turbo, as it is some days. They may be using a 15x on it most days so the services can call at Melksham, as majority of the Turbos have not yet received the ASDO door mods.