GWR Turbo cascade progress to Bristol region services

[Nammer]

Apparently there have been some issues raised by Network Rail re: Turbos between Fratton and PMH. This may mean their introduction to PMH may be delayed tomorrow.

 

[pompeyfan]

Apparently there have been some issues raised by Network Rail re: Turbos between Fratton and PMH. This may mean their introduction to PMH may be delayed tomorrow.

As posted in the other turbo thread

Class 16x DMUs are prohibited from:
• Portsmouth Harbour platforms 3, 4 and 5.
• Portsmouth and Southsea Low Level platforms 3 & 4.
• Portsmouth & Southsea Down carriage sidings
• Fratton platform 3 (including Down Main from Fratton East Junction to
Portsmouth & Southsea).
• Fratton No.1 reception road and back road.
• Fratton depot.

 

[swt_passenger]

Presumably all bets are off on the above service times because of the Westbury overrunning engineering works?

 

[59CosG95]

Seems they entered service on the Cardiff-Pompey corridor today.

 

[swt_passenger]

Seems they entered service on the Cardiff-Pompey corridor today.

Yes, it was also reported in the other current Turbo cascade thread in the timetables sub-forum.

 

[northernbelle]

Seems they entered service on the Cardiff-Pompey corridor today.

165131 and 166213 worked the 0930 Cardiff - Portsmouth and 1323 return.

Despite the Doomsday experts' predictions, there appears to have been no late running caused by the slowness of Turbos - even with a TSR beyond Fratton due to gauging restrictions.

I expect the 5 car formation was very welcome on a busy Saturday.

 

[moley]

As posted in the other turbo thread

That restricts the Turbos to terminating at Fratton platform 2 with a 50 min layover or using platform 1 at the Harbour (no platform 2). I see trouble ahead with that lack of flexibility especially at the Cardiff’s don’t usually use platform 1 at the Harbour.

 

[PHILIPE]

That restricts the Turbos to terminating at Fratton platform 2 with a 50 min layover or using platform 1 at the Harbour (no platform 2). I see trouble ahead with that lack of flexibility especially at the Cardiff’s don’t usually use platform 1 at the Harbour.

Platform 1 at Portsmouth Harbour is the one that the Cardiffs use and used today. All the postings relating to today have already been posted here:-

www.railforums.co.uk/threads/gwr-class-165-166-turbo-diagrams.157030/page-18

 

[ATW158Xpress]

All GWR services on weekdays expect 2 services are booked to use P1 at Portsmouth since the January timetable change.

 

[PHILIPE]

All GWR services on weekdays expect 2 services are booked to use P1 at Portsmouth since the January timetable change.

And last Timetable

 

[swt_passenger]

And last Timetable

I’d go as far as P1 being the usual for GWR for 10 years or so that I’ve noticed...

 

[K.o.R]

Saw a Turbo come through PMS yesterday morning. Was a welcome surprise.

 

[PHILIPE]

Route testing Fratton Depot

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V11071/2019/01/15/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O74071/2019/01/16/advanced

Can't locate returns

 

[swt_passenger]

Route testing Fratton Depot

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V11071/2019/01/15/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O74071/2019/01/16/advanced

Can't locate returns

They are 5F34 via Portsmouth Harbour, at least according to the post in the diagrams thread last week, so presumably in service with another unit:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V11065/2019/01/15/advanced
Runs Mon - Thur. On Wed and Thur the testing uses a unit detached from an inbound passenger working at the Harbour, runs to Fratton FP as 5F09.

There seems to be at least as much up to date discussion in the diagrams thread at the moment, especially regarding route restrictions.

 

[PHILIPE]

They are 5F34 via Portsmouth Harbour, at least according to the post in the diagrams thread last week, so presumably in service with another unit:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V11065/2019/01/15/advanced
Runs Mon - Thur. On Wed and Thur the testing uses a unit detached from an inbound passenger working at the Harbour, runs to Fratton FP as 5F09.

There seems to be at least as much up to date discussion in the diagrams thread at the moment, especially regarding route restrictions.

I posted on this thread as it is not exactly a diagram matter but is in connection with requirements of the cascade of the Turbos

 

[swt_passenger]

I posted on this thread as it is not exactly a diagram matter but is in connection with requirements of the cascade of the Turbos

Agree. No criticism intended, we end up with discussions in two places on many subjects and I don’t know what the solution to that is...

 

[PHILIPE]

Agree. No criticism intended, we end up with discussions in two places on many subjects and I don’t know what the solution to that is...

The problem is people sometimes post on a thread where the title could be similar. All the Portsmouth area clearance posts were being posted here at the beginning of the month then somebody decided to post on the diagram thread and the sheep follow.

 

[ATW158Xpress]

A turbo swap been made today between Long Marston and Bristol today. Which units did the honours today?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97563/2019/01/23/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97566/2019/01/23/advanced

 

[158820]

A turbo swap been made today between Long Marston and Bristol today. Which units did the honours today?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97563/2019/01/23/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97566/2019/01/23/advanced

Not a turbo swap, but HST coaches going to storage with some preserved traction.

 

[ATW158Xpress]

Not a turbo swap, but HST coaches going to storage with some preserved traction.

Well at least some coaches are going to storage for now

 

[Siemens Staines]

There was more than one movement to Long Marston today and the turbo going to Long Marston was 166216. I don't know the return. Photos from Martin Loaders website;

http://hondawanderer.com/166216_Honeybourne_2019.htm
http://hondawanderer.com/50007_Honeybourne_2019.htm

 

[158820]

I stand corrected, should have looked at the link more closely as the empty lhcs left at 8.30ish.

Thanks for the photos and for putting me right

 

[jimm]

Some more pictures from Honeybourne taken by Peter Tandy here

http://www.petertandy.co.uk/Recentpics.html

 

[ATW158Xpress]

What mods or work are done at Long Marston for Turbos?

 

[fgwrich]

Out of interest, most of my commute to Reading has been on a number of “Bristol Based” Turbos. Has there been a number of swaps or a small glut of Bristol turbos coming back to Reading temporarily?

I’ve have 206 last week, 220 yesterday and I’m another one (I’ll check the number later) now.

 

[FGW_DID]

Out of interest, most of my commute to Reading has been on a number of “Bristol Based” Turbos. Has there been a number of swaps or a small glut of Bristol turbos coming back to Reading temporarily?

I’ve have 206 last week, 220 yesterday and I’m another one (I’ll check the number later) now.

As Reading still requires a number of 166s, there have been semi regular rotations to enable outstanding Mod work to be carried out at SPM.

At the moment 166206 / 208 / 220 are at Reading.

 

[JN114]

165132 and 165134 swapped regions today; 134 making the trip west and 132 coming home to Reading having been ride height modified.

 

[CC 72100]

165132 and 165134 swapped regions today; 134 making the trip west and 132 coming home to Reading having been ride height modified.

Of course, 165134 is no stranger to this part of the world, having been down in Bristol area before Christmas.

 

[fgwrich]

As Reading still requires a number of 166s, there have been semi regular rotations to enable outstanding Mod work to be carried out at SPM.

At the moment 166206 / 208 / 220 are at Reading.

That explains it then, Thanks.

Speaking of Rotations, I see 201 has been sent to the west at last - gave me a little bit of a surprise passing it at Cardiff Central yesterday than its usual haunt of Wokingham!

 

[JN114]

Currently:-

165101-114/116/117
165121/123-126/128-130/132/133/135/136
166206/208/220

Are in the LTV fleet and:

165122/127/131/134/137
166201-205/207/209-219/221

Are in the West fleet.

There are regular transfers between the two.