Indeed. If TfL were to accept Travelcards as e-Tickets they would need something in the region of 7000* barcode readers for bus as well as all the barrier lines on rail.TfL will need substantial funding to add e-readers to every gate, provide portable readers for gateline and ticket checking staff, and create the infrastructure to connect everything to some central TOC database that allows them to work out if the ticket is valid at every location it is used and make sure it can't be used more than once. If they get that funding I'm sure they'd be happy to comply.
Indeed. If TfL were to accept Travelcards as e-Tickets they would need something in the region of 7000* barcode readers for bus as well as all the barrier lines on rail.
Surely, no one expects Travelcards to be issued as e-tickets when there is already a technological solution available via fare capping using Contactless cards.
(I know that there are issues around the Comtactless limit and travelcards from miles away from London but perhaps some of that would be sacrificed.)
The correct answer.Or even simpler, just take 2 quid off fares routed +LONDON and remove the Tube validity. I'd rather that, TBH, as I often prefer to walk or use a Sadiq Cycle.
This all done, there would I'd imagine be a considerable saving from not having to maintain the magstripe reading kit on the barriers.
The correct answer.
Provided that it's unambiguously accepted that a through journey using Oyster or contactless for the cross-London leg is still eligible for both missed advance protection and delay repay.
The correct answer.
That seems a rather backward step! Removing a through ticket because of a technology gap. Must remember that every time someone complains about a lack of through ticketing elsewhere in the country.
Through ticketing of that kind is about convenience. If you can just tap your card on a reader as easily as you can insert a ticket, does it even matter any more?
Or even simpler, just take 2 quid off fares routed +LONDON and remove the Tube validity. I'd rather that, TBH, as I often prefer to walk or use a Sadiq Cycle.
Having attempted to understand the latest ticketing system in Madrid, any pre-paid ticket that avoids having to do so gets my vote.The Spanish solution (eg for crossing Madrid) is that you get a Cercanias booking code from Renfe with your e-ticket and you use that to get a "free" paper metro ticket at the ATMs in Madrid.
Another issue is 2-for-1 entry to attractions (not at the moment obvs). You must have a paper ticket to claim these.There is no point in buying an inboundary Travelcard except niche cases like groups of children from outside London and Network Railcard discounts. Other solutions can be found for those matters.
It's one ticket, of course it's eligible for Delay Repay.Provided that it's unambiguously accepted that a through journey using Oyster or contactless for the cross-London leg is still eligible for both missed advance protection and delay repay.
That's not correct. See https://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/travel-by-train/is-my-ticket-valid-for-2for1Another issue is 2-for-1 entry to attractions (not at the moment obvs). You must have a paper ticket to claim these.
The world's evolved quite a bit since tickets valid across London on the Underground were intriduced (in the 1980s? Or earlier? Come to think of it I am not sure when). Fares and ticketing structure should move with the times, not be stuck in some pointless timewarp.That seems a rather backward step! Removing a through ticket because of a technology gap. Must remember that every time someone complains about a lack of through ticketing elsewhere in the country.
Or even simpler, just take 2 quid off fares routed +LONDON and remove the Tube validity. I'd rather that, TBH, as I often prefer to walk or use a Sadiq Cycle.
The correct answer.
Just put it on a smartcard (though I'm not sure if GTR do day Travelcards on Smartcard; some TOCs like c2c do though).At the weekend a railcard discounted Stevenage - London Zones 1-6 Travelcard costs £12.20. If this was abolished then I'd need to buy a return to London Terminals costing £8.10 and then use PAYG, which depending on what travelling I'm doing would cap at £8.70. This would mean a days travel costs £16.80 compared to £12.20 - a 37% increase!!!!
Just put it on a smartcard (though I'm not sure if GTR do day Travelcards on Smartcard; some TOCs like c2c do though).
Well that's improved considerably since I last looked at it.That's not correct. See https://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/travel-by-train/is-my-ticket-valid-for-2for1
But, my point was in relation to inboundary travelcards where the most likely method is Oyster/contactless PAYG. It is true that London residents wanting to make use of the offers cannot do so if they travel using PAYG. The benefit of free entry will often outweigh the extra cost of the day travelcard over the daily cap.There is no point in buying an inboundary Travelcard except niche cases like groups of children from outside London and Network Railcard discounts. Other solutions can be found for those matters.
But, my point was in relation to inboundary travelcards where the most likely method is Oyster/contactless PAYG. It is true that London residents wanting to make use of the offers cannot do so if they travel using PAYG. The benefit of free entry will often outweigh the extra cost of the day travelcard over the daily cap.
Having attempted to understand the latest ticketing system in Madrid, any pre-paid ticket that avoids having to do so gets my vote.
I am concerned that whether bar-code reader barrier would act slower than Oyster / Contactless only barrier?
I am concerned that whether bar-code reader barrier would act slower than Oyster / Contactless only barrier?