How busy have the services to Weymouth (FGW and SWT) been?

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Hi everyone

I'm planning on going to Weymouth next weekend to watch the sailing. Can anyone confirm whether the services to and from Weymouth (FGW via Westbury and SWT via Bournemouth) are full and standing?
 
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According to local media reports, most services, whilst busy, have seating room right into Weymouth. The roads are apparently fairly quiet aswell.
 

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According to local media reports, most services, whilst busy, have seating room right into Weymouth. The roads are apparently fairly quiet aswell.

The local tourist industry has be moaning that trade is down as the regulars have given Weymouth a wide berth. I think that was obvious in a similar way that Boris & TfL has scared off the theatre goers etc from Londons West End.
 

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Be carefull if your after the FGW Weymouth HST though, as it's only being used on a 'As required Basis', which it hasnt been for the past few days. SWT also has two 158s and Two 159s down there at the moment, also to provide an as required extra shuttle service up to Bournemouth, which unfortunatly that too has been running empty for the past few days too{ It's good that there down there to provide an a possible extra service, but it has led to short formed Salisbury services and services formed of 2 car 158s.]
 
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Be carefull if your after the FGW Weymouth HST though, as it's only being used on a 'As required Basis', which it hasnt been for the past few days. SWT also has two 158s and Two 159s down there at the moment, also to provide an as required extra shuttle service up to Bournemouth, which unfortunatly that too has runny empty for the past few days too{ It's good that there down there to provide an a possible extra service, but it has led to short formed Salisbury services and services formed of 2 car 158s.]

09.50 Bournemouth - Weymouth ran lightly loaded today. 5 car (159 + 158). Not sure whether the 10.50 extra was busier.

Also noted a 450 on the Lymington branch - I recall this is normally a 158 turn so perhaps that is also as a consequence of the 158's on the Weymouth
 

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09.50 Bournemouth - Weymouth ran lightly loaded today. 5 car (159 + 158). Not sure whether the 10.50 extra was busier.

Also noted a 450 on the Lymington branch - I recall this is normally a 158 turn so perhaps that is also as a consequence of the 158's on the Weymouth

Ah interesting, as ive noticed a slight increase in the switching of the 444s to the Bas services, and pairs of 450s running on the Weymouth Fasts.

Don't have any info on the XC services unfortunatly.
 

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I did hear the 07:05 Cardiff - Weymouth adtional service and the return working has actually been pretty quiet
 

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With good weather you could get a lot more descending on the town, but if its crap then the ticketless people may not bother
 

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450s on the Lymington branch is normal on weekends, it's only a 158 Mon-Fri.
 

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There was an article in Rail issue 701 where the the SWT/NR Alliance criticized the Relief Rd and said that the money should have been used to upgrade the Electric Supply
 

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True, but has the 450 been on the branch all week?

Im told that even the XC Loadings have also been light all week too. Something no doubt down the the predicted passenger flow then?

When I was at Basingstoke station on Tuesday a XC train (0910 formed of 2x5 coaches with the front 5 going to Weymouth) called there, passanger numbers coming into the station looked light (although it could well have been quite busy if just 5 coaches long). Although a fair number of people got on, it was by no way packed. However this was at 0910, so people may have been aiming to get there earlier than this service arrived.
 

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True, but has the 450 been on the branch all week?

It was on Friday. Could quite possible have been the rest of the week but I didn't think to notice - unless my usual train's a little late or the lymo a little early I quite often miss seeing it anyway.

Took a trip to Weymouth yesterday, went down on the 14.04 from Bournemouth and back up on the 20.10. Got handed a leaflet at the ticket office and was told, somewhat sarcastically, "We have to give you this". The leaflet warned of a queuing system outside Weymouth and to get to the station 40 minutes before the departure.
So got there 5 minutes prior, and apart from having to walk through all the queuing barricades, there was no queue and it was straight through and onto the train. It was busy, but everyone had a seat and no-one had to stand.

One thing that has changed is there's a noticeable increase in ticket checks. The last two months have been especially light - not only on the trains but the barriers at BMH have been open most of the times I was through. Not anymore.
 

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OK, thanks for your replies. It looks as though all of these predictions about people being left behind at Bournemouth and Weymouth were over the top!

I don't have a ticket, so I'd be grateful if anyone could recommend a good vantage point to watch the sailing.
 

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I don't have a ticket, so I'd be grateful if anyone could recommend a good vantage point to watch the sailing.

That's part of the problem, some of the racing takes place quite a way out to sea, so it's not that good as a spectator sport. Unless you are a sailor yourself, it's quite difficult to work out what exactly is going on. I'm sure a lot of people know this and therefore opt to watch it on TV and have the advantage of a commentary, helicopter views etc. That's why it's been so difficult to predict numbers.
 

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By all accounts , some of the specially prepared car parks (no doubt as part of the new relief road bonanza) - have had 5% utilisation......
 

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The local tourist industry has be moaning that trade is down as the regulars have given Weymouth a wide berth. I think that was obvious in a similar way that Boris & TfL has scared off the theatre goers etc from Londons West End.


Indeed, I would guess that stations on the line(s) will be severely affected too, e.g., Bournemouth is presumably suffering a loss in trade with no upside at all.
 

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Well I got flamed a couple of months ago for suggesting XC running Voyagers to Weymouth would be a waste.
 

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Well I got flamed a couple of months ago for suggesting XC running Voyagers to Weymouth would be a waste.

Yet now you have been proven right. It was hard to predict passenger flows for Weymouth
 

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And today the beach and trains have been full and standing.
 

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Well I got flamed a couple of months ago for suggesting XC running Voyagers to Weymouth would be a waste.

My recollection is that the flaming was because you produced no evidence to support your hypothesis.
 

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My recollection is that the flaming was because you produced no evidence to support your hypothesis.

My argument centred around the fact that if rolling stock can be found to tag onto the rural end of the network, why on earth is it not working the busy, rammed core.
 

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I'd be interested in any reports of the SWT 158/9 extras on Mon & Tues please, either if they run or loadings.
 

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My argument centred around the fact that if rolling stock can be found to tag onto the rural end of the network, why on earth is it not working the busy, rammed core.

Because this is a two week temporary situation of national priority for which there was seven years notice!

DDB
 

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There was an article in Rail issue 701 where the the SWT/NR Alliance criticized the Relief Rd and said that the money should have been used to upgrade the Electric Supply

The relief road will be used in the long term to reduce local congestion in the areas it bypasses, and was on the plans long before the Olympics were thought of.

The rail power supply is perfectly adequate for the normal day to day 2 tph use.

Rail mag exaggerating the situation somewhat?
 

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Because this is a two week temporary situation of national priority for which there was seven years notice!

DDB

I still don't think you get my point. If the Olympics are going to be that busy, and if they are going to generate that much more traffic, why not put the gold-dust Voyagers/HSTs on the core and leave the Dorset coast extensions to the regional operators.
 
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