How far would £755m go on Welsh railways?

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lazydragon

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As somebody who travelled Aber - Carmarthen by rail (!) : it was very quiet then, would be very quiet now, would be a waste of money.
Booo! Just being selfish I suppose, driving the route several times a month....a train would mean I could ditch the car altogether.

£755 million could get a really comprehensive government report on Welsh railways that we would have no funds to implement I suppose.
 
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Very definitely a self-tanning machine on every station; upgraded 'super orange' spec ones for Swansea :D
 
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How many DMUs could £755million pay for?

It's clear Valley line electrification isn't going to happen anytime soon and even after that there's still West, Mid North and the Marches lines that won't have wires to use them on.
 

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For a modest suggestion the 1 mile extension to Ebbw Vale Town does pretty well, then the 3 mile spur to Abertillery which has been talked about for a while now. Reckon they could both be delivered for less than £100m with only a small increase in rolling stock.
 

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Cardiff is only the 8th most popular destination from Wrexham- the largest town in North Wales as Bob would tell us- despite 10 years of trying to manipulate the market with direct services.
Out of interest, what are the first seven? Presumably Chester, Holyhead and Shrewsbury feature?
 

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Aber - Carmarthen has been costed at £750m according to the thread on that subject, and that's just the first price, you know it would end up being a lot more.

Bangor - Caernarfon Parkway perhaps might be a more realistic possibility (assuming that the dosh is used for a reopening rather than improvement of existing routes/services).
 
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Aber - Carmarthen has been costed at £750m according to the thread on that subject, and that's just the first price, you know it would end up being a lot more.

Bangor - Caernarfon Parkway perhaps might be a more realistic possibility (assuming that the dosh is used for a reopening rather than improvement of existing routes/services).
To the latter, I'd respectfully add Bangor - Llangefni as well. Both arteries choke with commuters, and there's the generally useful extension of a railhead for the surrounding areas.
 

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Four miles of track from Pontyclun to Beddau would be nice as well as the Hirwaun/Abertillery ones - probably all that cash would get swallowed up as someone said previously on consultations/studies etc.
 

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It will cost a big chunk of that for the WG to run the not for profit plans they have in place for Welsh Rail, with Northern going to Arriva and the extension of the LM franchise I would predict that Northern will get Chester to Manchester, LM will get Chester to Birmingham/Birmingham to Crewe via Wem and Northern will most likely get Crewe to Manchester via Wilmslow. Take these routes out of the equation with only 200 pax from Cardiff to Holyhead they will need most of that money just to run the services they intend to maintain.
 

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It will cost a big chunk of that for the WG to run the not for profit plans they have in place for Welsh Rail, with Northern going to Arriva and the extension of the LM franchise I would predict that Northern will get Chester to Manchester, LM will get Chester to Birmingham/Birmingham to Crewe via Wem and Northern will most likely get Crewe to Manchester via Wilmslow. Take these routes out of the equation with only 200 pax from Cardiff to Holyhead they will need most of that money just to run the services they intend to maintain.
But this HS2-related money will be a one-off, so surely in the capital (rather than revenue) budget?
 

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But this HS2-related money will be a one-off, so surely in the capital (rather than revenue) budget?
I wonder if this cash injection will actually be spent on rail or on road connections to any HS2 location. I know HS2 is a totally different thread but if the money being spent on HS2 was distributed to enhance the current infrastructure the country would have a much better transport system. What is the cost? Off the top of my head £300m per minute saved between point A - B.
 

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I wonder if this cash injection will actually be spent on rail or on road connections to any HS2 location. I know HS2 is a totally different thread but if the money being spent on HS2 was distributed to enhance the current infrastructure the country would have a much better transport system. What is the cost? Off the top of my head £300m per minute saved between point A - B.
True, there isn't any guarantee that the money will be spend on transport-related projects, but I started this thread for discussion of potential spends in the event it is ring-fenced for transport.
 
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