How many countries use Bombardier rolling stock

[Harlesden]

The Lincoln Service (St. Louis-Chicago) consists of Horizon cars built by Bombardier in the late 80's - although a subsequent order was proposed it never happened due to budgetary problems.
The fully computerized locomotive hauling the train is the Genesis built by General Electric and its height 14ft4ins makes it considerably taller than the single level Horizons.
No camera right now to take any pictures to post but I'm sure interested parties can find pictures on the web

 

[DownSouth]

Bombardier Transportation is building a fleet of 22x 3-car A-City EMUs for Adelaide Metro at the moment....

Delivery is being done by road thanks to a roll on-off trailer being far simpler to handle than lifting up each vehicle to put it on standard gauge bogies for the interstate trip...

Just like the Bombardier's operations in Britain has evolved and updated the Networker design to the Clubman, then the Turbostar/Electrostar and now Aventra, the A-City design can also have its lineage traced back through numerous previous iterations of which all bar the original are still in daily public service. The original design was the work of Commonwealth Engineering, which like BREL was acquired by ABB Transportation in the early 1990s, which in turn was merged into Adtranz and then sold to Bombardier.

The original design was an intercity DMU for the Western Australian 'Prospector' service which took visual cues from the Budd Metroliner EMUs. The core design has been adapted and updated to be the basis for about twelve designs since then, with all bar the original Prospector cars able to be seen in daily use across all five states with rail public transport, on all three track gauges and being run by seven different operators.

Amusingly, one of the earliest designs derived from the original Prospector design was the 2000 Class "Jumbo" DMU built by Commonwealth Engineering at the end of the 1970s which is currently in operation with Adelaide Metro - and due to be replaced by an EMU based off the same original design!

 

[WatcherZero]

I think an easier question would be how many countries dont use Bombardier rolling stock, they do sell pretty much everywhere.

 

[Class172]

In South Africa there is the Gautrain.

 

[Gordon]

I think an easier question would be how many countries dont use Bombardier rolling stock, they do sell pretty much everywhere.

Absolutely agree.

There is a decent list on wikipedia but even this list falls a fair way short of being complete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bombardier_Transportation_products

For example, the Swiss ICN units are missing from the 'normal speed multiple unit' list

 

[tranzitjim]

In Australia, Bombardier are very popular.

*** Trains ***

++ 41x 3 car DMU sets for regional operations
++ many 3 car EMU sets for the city of Adelaide (As shown above)


**** TRAMS ****

++ The city of Adelaide, have recently replaced their trams, with Bombardier product
++ The Gold Coast, brand new system has a number of brand new Bombardier trams
++ The city of Melbourne, has an order of 50 trams, with hopes to get 150 of them


Further to the above, Bombardier factories in Australia, where originally owned by 'Commonwealth Engeneering' or Comeng. They have proven to be very popular in Adelaide and Sydney. As well as in Melbourne for both their suburban trains and trams back in the 1980s

 

[DownSouth]

'Popular' is not quite the right word in Adelaide, where the deliveries were supposed to start in January (i.e. 11.5 months ago) with a full unit arriving every fortnight in time for testing and commissioning to be underway mid-year and for service to start when the complete rebuild of the line was complete in September.

They only started arriving in July, there are only four of them so far and they have massive quality issues - mainly that the floor panels shift when walked upon!

The people also hate the Bombardier Flexity trams we got eight years ago, they are cramped and feel built to a price with low-quality plastics and cheap unpadded seats. The bunch of Alstom Citadis trams subsequently bought after a project in Madrid was cancelled give a much smoother rider and are far more spacious and airy.

 

[317666]

Germany has no shortage of Bombardier rolling stock, including some very nice air-conditioned double decker coaches, and some absolutely horrendous new Talent2 EMUs (the latter have had no end of reliability and approval issues since being delivered).

The 'rubber ring' EMUs in Belgium were built by AdTranz in the late 1990s who are now Bombardier.

 

[90019]

One that seems to have become increasingly popular in America is the Bombardier BiLevel coach, though they were originally built by Hawker Siddeley Canada, who were then bought out by Urban Transportation Development Corporation who were in turn sold to Bombardier.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

In the south of France last year I came across this Bombardier station poster about their trains (supporting 2000 jobs in Valenciennes):

 

[starrymarkb]

The Swiss ICN, NINA and Lotschberger units are all joint Bombardier/Alstom products. IIRC the ICN also included Pininfarina

 

[DownSouth]

The Swiss ICN, NINA and Lotschberger units are all joint Bombardier/Alstom products. IIRC the ICN also included Pininfarina

Probably a good thing that the Italian company involved was only a designer and not a constructor

I'd rather take a punt on Chinese build quality over Italian build quality, maybe with the exception of heavy industrial manufacturing at this point in time (especially after the SCT asbestos fiasco and the Chery recalls) but they will get there in the next decade or so.

 

[F Great Eastern]

Also these in Poland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BombardierNaCentralnym.jpg

 

[317666]

Also these in Poland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BombardierNaCentralnym.jpg

Those Bombardier double-deckers are a very popular design (and so they should be, the DB examples are fantastic). There's also some in Israel: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/BombardierDDIsrarail.jpg

 

[Gordon]

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There was a Bombardier promotion (including give away Bombardier gummy bears and other trinkets) at Lalden, as part of the BLS Lotschberg south ramp festival last September:

http://gwizz.piwigo.com/index?/cate...tein_hohtenn_ausserberg_eggerberg_lalden_brig

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One of the locos was the Traxxx on test on the BLS last summer:

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[jopsuk]

As others allude to, the main reason Bombardier seem to be everywhere is that they have expanded massively by acquisition, buying up manufacturers across the world (not just trains either, planes too- Shorts of Belfast as a UK example).

The Gautrain however are Electrostars, assembled by UCW (who aren't owned by Bombardier. Yet?)

 

[DownSouth]

The Gautrain however are Electrostars, assembled by UCW (who aren't owned by Bombardier. Yet?)

A similar deal has happened with a couple of orders for EMUs to run on the Cape Gauge lines of Queensland Rail and TransPerth in Australia, where Bombardier won the contracts and contracted assembly to EDi Rail in Queensland - a company which gets most of its rolling stock work from the building and heavy maintenance of their Australian-spec locomotives built using EMD-based drivetrains.

This was done to work around some awkward delivery issues associated with Bombardier's own factory in Melbourne only having a direct connection to the Victorian broad gauge network, delivery by rail would have required them to run on all three track gauges (a unique Australian issue!) and complete clearance testing for Melbourne's narrow loading gauge. The QR order were able to leave the factory for test runs and eventual handover under their own power, while the TransPerth units were equipped with temporary standard gauge bogies for the journey across Australia on the transcontinental line.

 

[straller]

The Stockholm metro C20 type trains were built by ADTranz, now owned by Bombardier. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_C20

 

[NL Railways]

Our sprinter light trains in the Netherlands are built by Bombardier in cooperation with Siemens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS_Sprinter_Lighttrain

NS hispeed and SNCB/NMBS have also TRAXX locomotives built by Bombardier http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS_Hispeed_186

Rotterdam suburban metro and underground network uses Bombardier units as well http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrotype_B

So over here you will find a lot of Bombardier rolling stock.

 

[b0b]

Some Chicago L trains are Bombardier

http://www.transitchicago.com/news_initiatives/5000s.aspx

 

[tripleseis]

New York Subway has some....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R62A_(New_York_City_Subway_car)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R142_(New_York_City_Subway_car)